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[–] [email protected] 154 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (16 children)

If your kids' school laptops are surveilled, they're surveilled by someone. Let's call that someone Joe. Joe is a person who took a low-paying job that lets him surveil your kids. Joe likes his job, because he gets to surveil your kids. He gets to turn on the camera and look in your kids' room. He gets to read the chat messages your kids send to their classmates.

Your kids would be better off without Joe in their lives. Joe is not a source of security. Joe is not protecting your kids; Joe is a threat to them.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I work IT in schools. There is limited surveillance tools on college owned devices. Mainly logging of web traffic. Screens can be viewed when on campus network, not reachable off campus.

No one in our department has time to waste looking at web history or screens. Teachers don't bother to use it much either. We only look at it when directed by college executive or when I go in there at the end of term to clear the alerts.

I'd imagine most other schools are similar, no one gives a shit what kids are doing on their devices

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

no one gives a shit what kids are doing on their devices

Except Joe. And people like Joe. Whose surveillance of kids is now not only easier, but sanctioned.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. It’s like a tacit admission that the only reason to have this stuff is for people like Joe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trust me bro, joe is a good guy!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He's super busy! No time to abuse our completely abuseable system...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

my highschool has 1,500 kids and 2 IT guys. We have over 100 broken laptops rn. They're overworked minimum wage workers like everyone else working at public schools. They don't even look at what kids do. I've seen only 1 story in the 4 years I've been in HS where someone actually got in trouble for messing with stuff on the computer and it was because they were trying to brute force a network password they didn't have access to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

kids looking at porn on their school laptops is why the tools exist, not for pedos. 'Joe' is 0.001% of people, not the majority!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s a number you just made up.

Either way, use a blacklist then. If you really care about what sites they access, use a whitelist.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

use a blacklist then

They do.

That’s a number you just made up.

you're purposefully ignoring my point

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

That's what it looks like when it works well. There's no way for parents to know if its a Joe situation or not.

It's not like it hasn't happened before. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/610k-settlement-in-school-webcam-spy-case/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So if no one gives a shit anyway you don’t need the surveillance capabilities anyway, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

a private school needs to give the appearance that they do, or at least have this capability when someone asks. On the ground, its barely used

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