this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2024
1338 points (97.9% liked)
Technology
59207 readers
2520 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Even Luke, who I always agreed with the most and seemed the most level-headed has talked about their hiring process and said that, if you don't have personal projects, it's highly unlikely that you'll be considered for a position in LTT.
Supposedly it's because that shows a "lack of passion". Personally, I find that rather toxic. Like, dude, I do this for work and I also have a life. I literally do not have enough time to exercise, take care of my loved ones and also maintain personal projects.
I don't see the problem... having side projects will improve your chances at MANY jobs, and even applying for university if they're related to your field. Even if you have no time at all, if you're genuinely passionate about technology, I'd expect you to at least have aspirational goals for things on the side. A side project does not have to be finished or maintained to show "passion".
The entertainment company doesn't want to hire boring 9-5 drones just in it for the paycheck. Big surprise. They're allowed to be selective.
Having hobbies outside of your profession does not mean you're a "drone". Quite the opposite.
I think you're completely misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. The hobbies ARE the side projects. They don't have to be the same as your job.
But it's still sitting in front of a computer programming. I do that but not that often. I'm already programming 8-9 hours a day. My interests go way beyond that.
I have not once said anything about programming in this discussion. The side project could be knitting for all I care. I specifically said it's not important if the side projects are directly related to your job.
Then you're lacking context and have been arguing without understanding what I was referring to.
Luke at LTT works in the development side of the company (floatplane for example) and the "side projects" are public repos in github/gitlab/etc.
I've seen Luke talk about it a little, and at least during the clips I watched, Github wasn't mentioned. If he specifically says somewhere he's only looking for open source coding projects, then sure, that's a little unreasonable.
More generally though, there are plenty of hobbies you can talk to an employer about that could show "passion" without being programming. Personally I enjoy working on my own car, and I've talked about that before as a side project in interviews. If your hobbies require any skill at all, and aren't just "turn your brain off and watch YouTube", it will help you in just about any job. And from what I've heard from LTT, they're not really any different.
The dude hires people for programming positions and a lot of people use their GitHub as a portfolio, basically. He was saying that if you don't have that, you're basically not even considered for the job.
In summary, this specific case was about it being basically a requirement to program 24/7. Which is pretty toxic.
Well, don't think their IT positions are competitive when it comes to salaries, compared to major tech companies. Also considering their offices are in Vancouver, you probably aren't going to work their to make bank.
It's a bit of a selection bias out of necessity..
*there
None of the things you mentioned justify having a toxic hiring policy/work culture.