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[–] [email protected] 389 points 2 months ago (85 children)

Now, I'm all for the freedom of defending your country... But am I the only one thinking that this is presented in a bit too much of a good light? Like, what is the title supposed to make me feel? If the nationalities were reversed, would this have been posted here still?

I genuinely thank you for sharing this info, but I can't help feeling uncomfortable reading about atrocious killing devices in a technology thread.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Someone go through the GC and tell me how this isn't a war crime now? This seems a lot like napalm or WP.

Yes, Russia's worse, and we all know it. But when we're done fighting monsters we shouldn't have become them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why would it be a war crime? Just can't use the chemical payloads over civilian populations like Russia was during their initial campaigns.

Use of napalm also isn't a war crime, the context of targets is what makes it one.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Can you point out the part of the geneva conventions that make using incendiary weapons against military targets in non civilian areas a war crime?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, Russia’s worse, and we all know it. But when we’re done fighting monsters we shouldn’t have become them.

When you are fighting for your survival from an enemy who has stated their goal is genocide of your peoples, you can do whatever the fuck you want to defend yourself from them.

Becoming the monster would be turning around and invading a smaller country.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You can do whatever the fuck you want

Yeah, Iraq should have gang raped more American POWs in self defense

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

gang raping American POWs didn't protect anyone. Actively killing the people who are currently trying to murder you with fire isn't meaningfully morally distinct than killing them with bullets.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And now they go silent.

The hypocrisy never ceases to amaze.

If you're aligned with the west, anything goes, without consequences. If not, you're a terrorist whether you like it or not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

What hypocrisy?? They made some ridiculously stupid comparison of combat methods with treatment of POWs, it's not the same thing at all lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

The reason to avoid incendiary weapons near civilians is the heavy collateral damage to said civilians. It's no more illegal to burn enemy soldiers than fill their torsos full of shrapnel nor their bellies full of lead nor any of the other horrible things we do to enemy soldiers.

It's not illegal why should it be?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s not against the Geneva convention, it’s completely within the limits to use incendiary weapons against military targets. Read for yourself:

https://geneva-s3.unoda.org/static-unoda-site/pages/templates/the-convention-on-certain-conventional-weapons/PROTOCOL%2BIII.pdf

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