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Panasonic Announces Return to the US with New Line-Up of OLED and Mini-LED TVs with Fire TV Built In (www.prnewswire.com)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Basically the only option I have found for a non-connected/smart/spyware tv in the last few months are commercial displays. They must price in the ad revenue to the consumer stuff because the price of those commercial displays is ~4x.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Can't you simply not connect your display to the Internet, or place it after a firewall which is blocking the internet traffic.

I seriously don't understand your concerns.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

You can, but it's not a perfect solution. Mostly because the TVs interface is still designed around this app mentality.

I bought a Samsung TV recently and it's never been on the internet, but I still have to go to a dead home screen where all of the ads would be just to switch inputs and half the buttons on the remote are for services I don't want.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This. I believe projectors are still untainted as of yet as well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

But they need darkness, a relatively large room and a whole spare wall... Wouldn't really fit a projector screen in the little corner between the fridge and the cupboard where our TV hangs from an arm, even the smallest ones aren't small enough. And where would you keep the projector itself, on your lap?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

A lot of them are adding that stuff. I looked earlier today actually.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Can’t you simply not connect your display to the Internet

Probably, but maybe not. I can think of three ways a Smart TV could potentially get internet access without the owners knowledge.

  1. Amazon Sidewalk
  2. The TV Manufacturer cuts a deal to access the closed WiFi network that many cable operators have on their cable modems or routers.
  3. Via the manufacturers app installed on a smart phone. They often use the app to make setup easier and / or to cast content. There's no reason the TV can't log data until the app connects and then use the app to transmit that data to the manufacturer.

So while the owner could choose not to give their Smart TV a wifi connection that doesn't mean the TV can't get one another way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Commercial displays often times are more robust as well, designed to be installed and stay on / be switched on and off way more times than your consumer level product.

Also, yes 100% advertising revenue is baked into the consumer products. They’re being paid to sell you the tv by their 3rd parties too.