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[–] [email protected] 186 points 2 months ago (7 children)

There's a reason captchas have moved mostly image identification systems. These text-based captchas have all been defeated for years.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 2 months ago

Yeah because whomever "owns" the data needs humans to train their bots, not because the image based bot detection is better than other methods.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago

The images are not actually the captcha. They've used other methods and tools to verify your authenticity, then they force you to help train their image recognition AI under the guise of it being the actual captcha. Its Distributed Forced Labor, and Google has been using captchas to do this for decades. Remeber the picture-of-two-words captcha? One word was always squiggly and the other was not. The squiggly word was the real captcha, the other word was from a scanned book and you were helping to train their OCR algorithms.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I remember that Jdownloader could crack some CAPTCHAs back in the 00's.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The image ones basically as well

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, at this point, most forms of image identification catches have also been defeated, not quite 100% success yet, but they're getting there

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

I mean the google one is literally training a Algorithm to identify the images so the shit defeats itself.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Funnily enough, the reason they switched to those was to use the data to train machine learning (AI) models, just like Google's recaptcha was originally pictures of words from old, scanned books so they could transcribe all of them "for free" and train their transcription algorithms.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Man I miss the times when Google used to trick us into helping make knowledge more easily accessible to everyone. Now we just train fucking AI for luxury cars.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's a bit weird how that actually works though...

"Which of these pictures are traffic lights?"

I'd hope with all the self-driving-(ish) cars coming out, any AI like that should be able to identify a traffic light, right?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

When you "solve" a captcha like that, you're just helping train the AI you're talking about.

The stuff that determines whether you're a not or not is based on browser information, how you interact with the page, etc.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

That's exactly what you're doing, training the AIs to identify that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If they add audio captchas for the visual impaired then those image captchas can be circumvented. There is a Tampermonkey script on GitHub that can defeat Recaptcha by solving the audio captcha.