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Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app? (blog.cryptographyengineering.com)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 2 months ago (63 children)

No.

As a kind of a weird bonus, activating end-to-end encryption in Telegram is oddly difficult for non-expert users to actually do.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (56 children)

As a kind of a weird bonus, activating end-to-end encryption in Telegram is oddly difficult for non-expert users to actually do.

No, it's not. It's very easy. In the bottom right corner there is a pencil button to compose a new message and right there it asks which tpye of chat to start. Secret chat is the second topmost option after group chat. Really not hidden or complicated at all.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why would it even be an option to have a non-encryted chat if the app can do encrypted?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Telegram isn't made to be a full E2EE messenger. They have things like public channels which you can't do with E2EE. What kind of idiots thought that Telegram was intended to be a fully E2EE messenger? People use it cause it is native and good for its purposes. It has secret chats if you need them at times. Why all the hate from the Signal CIA fanbois?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

so make 1to1 conversation e2ee by default, what would be the downsite? Only one i can think of is they want to snoop in peoples convos.

im fine with public channels not being encrypted, thats fair.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The author makes the point that Telegram advertises itself as secure, but isn't except a hidden out of the way option that almost nobody will use.

The truth of the matter is Telegram has the full plaintext content of almost every message posted on that site.