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Founder and CEO of Telegram messaging service arrested in France (www.tf1info.fr)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, but it's a private messaging app! Not even the owners are supposed to know what is going on in the chats. It's not a moderation situation - I don't know if he rejected a request to ban accounts, but it isn't how things are supposed to be.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Isn't the main problem that most people don't use the E2E encrypted chat feature on Telegram, so most of what's going on is not actually private and Telegram does have the ability to moderate but refuses to (and also refuses to cooperate)?

Something like Signal gets around this by not having the technical ability to moderate (or any substantial data to hand over).

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Exactly. Telegram has a ton of public channels full of content that is illegal in most EU countries and refuses to comply with any local laws on things like hate speech. They know perfectly well what their platform is used for, they just don't care. It would be a wildly different case if everything were E2E encrypted by default.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Also they use a custom encryption protocol that had bugs that look like a backdoor. https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113020871978942265

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well, the French police seem to be saying the way he is running the company involves being knowingly complicit, not that they just happen to be hosting/facilitating communication without the company's knowledge.

They could be wrong, but this is part of the process of finding out.