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[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Wow. So they're saying that he's complicit in all crimes that may have taken place on Telegram. That's insane.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps you can use the same logic to go after gun manufacturers..

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Fundraiser to send CEOs on a French vacation?

[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 months ago

By they logic, France is complicit in all crimes committed within their borders.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not necessarily. It might be because of the crimes in the public groups and channels in Telegram. That makes it no more immune from responsibility than Facebook or Twitter.

See this thread

Signal doesn't have those.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Considering how hard it is for goverments to actually get Telegram to shutdown criminal chat groups or get chat logs (of unencrypted ) groups I think its at least more reasonable than the whole idea of banning E2E encryption.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most Telegram groups I stumble across for anything even remotely illegal have been shut down, so it's clearly not as lawless as you're painting it to be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It took the german goverment years to force Telegram to comply with their requests to get data and shut down specific groups. Also based on your location things that might be legal are not legal in a different location, from a German legal perspective there still lots of things happening in Telegram that are atleast a grey area(piracy, hate speech, porn) or straight up illegal(drugs, terrorist groups propaganda).

I am not in favor of the arrest or any goverment repression btw, I am just adding why goverments in europe might want to do stuff like this.