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We need to nationalise Google, Facebook and Amazon. Here’s why (www.theguardian.com)

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With Google's recent monopoly status being a topic a discussion recently. This article from 2017 argues that we should nationalize these platforms in the age of platform capitalism. Ahead of its time, in fact the author predicted the downfall of Ello.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Fuck nationalization of social media. Honestly, this is one of the worst ideas I’ve heard.

The idea that giving the government a monopoly on the biggest data hoarders is somehow better than having the capitalists own it is mind-boggling.

The government doesn’t need a warrant to search through its own data.

The last thing we need is to give the state more power over our lives, more insight into our lives, and more control over the narratives we learn.

Every time humans have centralized more power into fewer and fewer hands, nothing good comes from it. We need more decentralized forms of media, not more centralized forms.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If the government owns it, isn't it subject to FOIA and public records laws/disclosures?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

FOIA is great and all, and so are public records laws and disclosure laws.

But the state is gonna state, and when push comes to shove, social media will be another tool to manufacture consent, break up movements, and preserve itself over the interest of the governed.

I’m not concerned about the ability to FOIA shit about Twitter or Facebook’s algorithm, as much as I’d like to know about how it targets the content slop to its users. I’m concerned about how it will consolidate power into fewer hands, and how state sponsored social media will be abused. And I don’t think FOIA would ever reveal that if it happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

social media will be another tool to manufacture consent, break up movements, and preserve itself over the interest of the governed.

it already is that, or did you miss the stories about Biden administration officials meeting with Facebook, TikTok etc about "content moderation"?

hint: moderation is different from censorship

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You are absolutely correct, I’m just worried about one less barrier.

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