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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Sometimes, you just need to wipe the drawing board clean and start over. πŸ€·πŸ‘‹ πŸ”₯

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (20 children)

It's not about justice. It's about homeostasis. The guy and possibly his kids will be fine in their luxury climate bunkers as the world grows more bleak and they bark orders remotely until there's no one left alive or dumb enough to keep listening.

The thing is though, what we've done and are doing right now will take millions of years to heal. Nothing to Earth's 3.8 billion year old story of life, but effectively eternity to our monkey brains. I just don't see our species putting down our shovel and living within our ecological means when that would mean necessary decline in our quality of life and intentional population control over time. We were warned for a century. We are feeling the effects. Scientists are noting new runaway effects conservative estimates didn't account for. We need to stop 30 years ago, and we won't even stop today.

I don't consider it justice, I consider it wholesale refusal as a species to live within our ecological means. We just keep digging, and the consequences, the physics, don't care why.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (15 children)

necessary decline in our quality of life

i'm not refuting your core premise.

but on the note of this issue, not sure i can agree.

have a look at this public infrastructure technology from 122 years ago:

Youtube/Invidious

imagine if we'd spent the last 1+ΒΌ century collectively working towards the utopia this kind of project hinted at - instead of developing new machines to destroy?

typically they say utopian dreams scatter in the face of increased technological awareness. have to say my experience has been the opposite.

the more i learn about technology, the more i realise we could probably be very close to a near-utopia by now. for some suspicious reason we took a very different road, and here we are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Yeah I don't know. Just see how the modern world is shaping society to the negative. Generation Instagram/TikTok all want to be influencers, there's growing mental illnesses. Fertility rapidly declining (and it isn't unfortunately all because of education). Capitalism is almost perfected abusing the dopamine system in an unhealthy way. I don't want to be a doomer. I just don't see where we are close to utopia. Which for me would be more sociali(sm) more community, less narcissism/egoism and more solarpunk. But right now we are on a different path. I'm happy to be proven wrong though...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's why I've started trying to disconnect from social media. So far it's been harder then quitting smoking

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yep, Internet addiction is real, and so widely socially accepted...

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