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Well, it was never implied that God was supposed to be subject to the same commandments. The whole religion kind of requires holding God above one's self and others as well, as do many religions with creator gods. It doesn't really work if God is supposed to equal to us and subject to the same constraints, they're supposed by design to be omniscient and omnipotent and perfect and that's why we're supposed to trust in them and all their dictates if we want to 'saved'.
It's not a particularly remarkable insight or cutting blow to point out that God doesn't follow their own rules since everybody knows that including the devout and they think it's a good thing. I'd hazard a guess that the ability to accept this so readily probably explains a lot about overlap between strength of religious belief and embrace of dictators who also don't model their own edicts.
And in the same way God is allowed to have double standards and disobey the rules he set for humanity, Christian leadership is held to a lower standard and allowed to get away with things like pedophilia by the members of their church.
It does make sense that God would be allowed to break rules, its kind of like how a parent doesnt have the same rules as their kids. And no on in a church is allowed to be a pedo, if that happens that is seem by very bad by all the people.
Unfortunately some churches have a reputation for covering up the crime and not punishing the perpetrator.
It's one thing for the crime to happen; it's much worse when a bunch of people decide to hide it.
I think what it is are they are friends and their friends promise to never do it again and they dont want to ruin their lives. It is a universal thing and not just a religous thing but we news stories about what is supposed to be a safe place sell more papers.
Uh, it was more of an institutional policy. That's why it was such a scandal.
Yes. It's much more than just "friends" backing each other. Many times they'll still have to face the elders of the church or similar things but it is nearly always handled in the church meaning they're kicked out of something possibly until they repent. The police are very often never involved.
I am guessing that we are talking about the catholic church, and I could be wrong because I dont know about their rules, but I dont believe they would have rule not severely punishing or sending to police pedos. I would guess they catagorized it as someone who broke a rule, not committed a crime.
Please read up on it. I'm sure now they do have that policy, but...it was an extremely widespread problem, literally all over the world. Any claim that they've fixed the problem is going to be met with skepticism for a long time, and rightly so. They worked HARD to hide it.
I do think the Catholic church was right about one thing - it likely happened in other churches as well.
That is a long wiki page, you will need to point to the part you are referring to.
If you want to point to institutions with pedo problem, then you should look at government schools which have much more than churches. But I think this is more about ragging on religious institutions than actually understanding what is happening.
The whole page is the point. You don't seem to be very informed on the situation; you claimed it was just a few friends. I was trying to tell you it was a systemic issue, and the long page is evidence of that.
I'm guessing you're religious and trying to avoid facing the fact that religions do bad things, too. Well, guess what? They do.
"Ragging on religious institutions" lol. Seems like you just want to bury your head in the sand.
I've scrolled through your comments and realize now you're a Trump fan, so I now realize I've been wasting my time. There's no point in trying to explain something to Trump fans, you guys are beyond help. And I'm guessing your "government school" comment is referring to the (insane, untrue) claims that schools indoctrinate kids to be trans or whatever the hell they are claiming today. So, don't bother replying, I'm just going to add you to my block list, and I won't see it any way.
Trump fans. Just keep drinking that Flavor-Aid. Still supporting that jackass after all of the stupid shit he has done. The "party of law and order" supporting churches that covered up pedophiles for years. Insane.
And yes, he is racist. If you think otherwise, you're burying your head in the sand, again.
There are something like 1.4 billion catholics in the world there is going to be all kinds of examples for you to call it a "systemic issue" when there is literally no part of the system that encourages this. If you actually cared you would look at schools which have a much higher number of molested kids. And no government schools is about them being government run not some kind of public run thing.
I love how you guys just cant not think about trump for one moment. Rent free.