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Silicon plus perovskite solar reaches 34 percent efficiency (arstechnica.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I have never said or intended to imply that there were no advances made in the last 20 or 30 years.

This would be great news if it was commercialy viable, but it isn't. It NEVER is.

That's pretty definite by any measure.

But I get it. 99% of the announcements go nowhere. And it's worse if an announcement is just hype or hyperbole. However, in science we have to do the 99% to find the 1% of true advancements.

So ~~of~~ if your point is just that you don't like the hyperbole, then using hyperbole yourself is not doing yourself any favour. Of course people are going to be more measured and realistic in reply to your blatant over-statements and denials.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's pretty definite by any measure.

Not really, sorry. The complaint still is that the announcements are of some magical huge improvement that is just not real. They might work in a prototype, maybe in a laboratory, or the thing just disintegrates after being exposed to water or something. Of course the results influence existing or future products, that's how the real world improvements come about.

By the time you modify the prototype (or whatever) into something that is actually real world production viable, with a reasonable lifespan and production costs, there's barely anything left in common with the hyperbolic announcement about fantasy stuff.

I stand by that statement you highlighted. And the fact that it isn't hyperbole. With all of these achievements being released as clickbait news articles, somehow when something exciting it's actually everything the market, it's crickets. Like solid state or "salt" batteries are starting to become products, seen any articles on those posted here recently? Or in news outlets in general? I haven't, but I honestly could've just missed them, or they didn't gain as much traction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We must read very different sources. For example, I've seen plenty of articles and videos just this week for Samsung's 1,000 km EV battery with its 20 year life span, and 9-minute charging. If you consider those combined features incremental, then I can see why you're frustrated. It's already in production, and has been delivered to "customers. Samsung are even gearing up for out-sourced mass manufacturing. That's well beyond some theoretical lab experiment that has no chance of seeing the light of day.

I don't disagree with you about the 99% over-hype being a PITA. But to adamantly state you're seeing nothing reported on, while admitting you "could've just missed them" doesn't sound convincing. Besides, it only takes a single article for you to be wrong about it being "never."