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Ok, let's look at your own words then:
Cool, I hear lots of things. Where's the evidence?
Who is we? I am not happy about any of it, but especially when it is something not especially useful (you could have used spelling and grammar checkers that have predated AI by many years but you decided to waste water).
And I don't really care about the potential of an orphan-crushing machine as long as we let it keep crushing orphans.
I love this last part the best though:
We can just forget about these because you didn't want to use standard grammar and spellcheckers and they have the potential to do a bunch of things they can't do. Awesome. Totally worth the end of civilization.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/06/06/239031/training-a-single-ai-model-can-emit-as-much-carbon-as-five-cars-in-their-lifetimes/
It's not crushing orphans. It's solving advanced problems that human brains are not able to and reducing the time between discoveries but also just being fun to play with and helps everyone access tools that just speeds everything up and only going to get better.
Does more than spell checking, not a sound argument.
Everything in life will have a cost. We have to weight the benefits against the cost. AI is potentially the greatest benefit we could see in our lifetime.
That is training, not use. You are being dishonest.
And what is the usage?
It's not research?
Any examples of what they're doing to exploit us with it?
Most places I've seen are trying to find ways to incorporate AI to help check for errors and reduce time on tasks.
It's not like AI is the cause of being exploited either. But it does assist me when I'm studying for a new role. Building a resume and upskilling on my own time.
And look I'm aware I'm taking AI side. I know most companies would fire anyone and replace them with a machine if they could. But I'm still better off with this technology if it leads to better medicine or gives us access to things that was unreachable or difficult to access in the past. It's a two way street. But it's like people on my street keep putting up barriers trying to make everyone take the long route
If it's one thing in life that I can't believe others just don't see is how the rich embrace things that the rest reject and often the thing is what contributes to the success of the rich. They're embracing it for a reason. It's a forxEe multiplier. It reduces workloads. Why the hell are we acting like it's some great sin. We should be fighting to keep it from them and for us instead of the other way around
I'm not really following. I thought you were saying it was about exploiting workers. Now it's about trump. I really can't think of what this small group would accomplish that they don't already accomplish by hiring quants to their 500 year old think tank. Difference with AI is we now have our own force multiplier threatening their power.
Partially why I think media is driving us to be so against AI.
I see the same articles for AI as I do with any other propaganda like this it all has a familiar smell. My gut is telling me these small groups of powerful people do not want us to embrace AI
That's because the truth sucks and your brain is rejecting it in defense of your mental health.
There's one. What else?