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Welcome to version v1.109.0 of Immich. This release introduces an additional way for you to support Immich financially as well as bug fixes for various issues. Some of the highlights in this release include:

Immich license pricing is $25 per user or $99 per server for a lifetime license.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yep and eventually there will be a paid proprietary version. That's usually how it goes. I hope I am wrong.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

They promised at least that's not how they're going to do this, at least. But in the end, it's easy to backpaddle on these promises.

Still: you can always fork the project.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I don't think it's possible to make this project proprietary because FUTO does not own the rights to the code that were made by random contributors on git. Part of the promise was that they won't change their CLA so it should be fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who is? That's the problem with forks. They always divide the community into slices

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think that there'll be a community for a project that turned proprietary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why not? There are some popular examples, like mysql --> mariadb or elasticsearch --> opensearch

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I meant for the propietary branch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Ok, makes sense

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Would be very difficult to switch licenses away from GPL3

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

They would need to do a private rewrite. Once again this is why you should never sign any kind of CLA. There isn't a CLA here but it there were it would be a simple matter of them changing the license.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While true it is not impossible to relicense a software project.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They would have to track down everyone who has ever contributed to the project and convince them to sign a CLA. Many/most would refuse, whose code they would have to rewrite from scratch without violating their copyright (meaning no copy-pasting).

It would be messy and extremely painful, and at the end of the process we’d still have Immich as it was before the license change available to fork and maintain ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They only need the biggest contributors. Small contributions like single line or even a few lines edits etc. are not eligible for copyright. Also minor contributions can be easily rewritten.

Most ppl you will get with a paycheck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

… at which point we could still fork the project from before the license change and continue on our merry way.

If you expect ongoing maintenance, are you saying you feel entitled to the devs’ continuing work in perpetuity, and at no cost? Because that’s called slavery and we have laws against it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you expect ongoing maintenance, are you saying you feel entitled to the devs’ continuing work in perpetuity, and at no cost? Because that’s called slavery and we have laws against it.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’m just trying to understand what you’re upset about. Immich is released under one of the most user-protecting licenses out there, without a CLA, and every communication from everyone on the dev team has emphatically committed to keeping it that way. You’re over here saying “yeah but they might change it some day” and sure, maybe, but it would be a gigantic pain in the ass, there’s no indication they plan to do so, and you could say the same thing about literally any other open source project. And even if they did change it, we’d still have the most recent GPL version to fork! What more could you possibly want? All that’s left is a guarantee of ongoing maintenance, which I’m sorry but you are not entitled to that.

Edit: and the best way to ensure ongoing maintenance is to fund the project. Devs gotta eat.