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Curious what people think.

Do you think using the GrapheneOS operative system is useless if the user plans to/needs to install Play Store apps anyway?

I think I'm not alone in feeling this way, but sometimes I feel a sense of imposter syndrome because I'm not perfectly private and am dependent on some Play Store apps. This has caused me to question if the transition to GOS is meaningful at all.

Feel free to share your opinion. Cheers! ...posted from my GrapheneOS Pixel.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 106 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

Saw this question posted elsewhere, so I'm paraphrasing somebody else, but the privacy benefits of Graphene OS are ESPECIALLY impactful if you're using invasive apps. The whole point of setting up all of the extra sandboxing, storage limits, network restrictions, yadda yadda yadda, is specifically for people who might need or want to still leverage some apps from bigger, less trusted providers.

I'll flip the question, if you're only using trusted, vetted, open source applications, do you even need GrapheneOS? Why not LineageOS, which also comes free of gapps?

And this also fully neglects the inherent distinction between privacy and security. Maybe you trust google knowing you called your mom last night, but you don't want your oppressive conservative government accessing your phone to view your Signal messages to your Grinder date. There's more to privacy than just the number of times your phone pings Google Telemetry servers.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I'm mostly on board with this, but even with using only trusted, vetted... apps (which is already a huge challenge for some) I wouldn't go for sure that none of those are going rouge (as we saw before: some adv company buying a decent SW and making it a bloatware).

Getting back to my first point: I just had a situation where I had to install Viber for example, and I can't stress enough how grateful I was for the Storage and Contact scopes features.

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