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You honestly think that factory farm emissions font change if people don't give them money for their product? If your head was any further down in the sand, the magma would melt it.
Analogies don't indicate a similar level of morality. They are used to explain points to people who, for some reason, are unwilling or unable to otherwise understand.
i didnt suggest they did. i'm saying that buying food is disanalagous to rape.
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to be clear, rape is wrong. buying food is not. you don't not-rape in order to reduce rape. you don't-rape because rape is wrong. by contrast, the goal of not-buying meat is to reduce the environmental impact of the meat industry. if that doesn't work, then not-buying meat is not a moral duty (at least, not for that reason. it's possible there is some other reason, but that's not the topic being discussed).
What if you buy food from someone you know murdered children to get it? It's so obviously wrong that buying food is never an immoral act. If you are interested in having philosophical conversations, then you really need to go back to the basics. At this point, you're trying to join an archery competition with a nurf toy. There are undeniably immoral ways to get food. Destroying the planet and torturing animals for slightly cheaper food that you do not absolutely need to survive is absolutely immoral. The reason it is so hard for you to see this is because you are an addict making excuses. Not because you are starving and need the cheapest, most despicable food.
you accusation of addiction is a personal attack. it has no bearing on the truth of any of the claims I've made.
It absolutely does. You would be able to see it if the addiction in question was cheap animal products. Your brain is clouded by the fact that since food is required to live, then no food can be an addiction. You're simply wrong. You and many people can be addicted to cheap, unhealthy food that harms the planet. As a result of it, you excise your own deplorable behavior.
saying it doesn't make it true.
You are right about that. What makes you wrong is what you said, not what I said.
saying I'm wrong doesn't make it so. I have been right this whole time
Oh, you said you're right, I guess that proves it then, well played.
I've presented exactly as much evidence as you, to wit.
It's easy to go back and read this. You left the topic without responding. You made some joke about psychiatry because you couldn't come up with anything that made sense as a rebuttal to what I said. I'm not surprised, this is par for the course when people want to try to "win" an argument without actually having anything they feel makes sense. It's fine, you do you, I've said my piece and you couldn't say yours because you haven't found it yet.
I've got my earworm in you, and maybe eventually, as you get older, you will occasionally consider it. If not you, then maybe someone who reads this. If anyone out there decides to be a bit more thoughtful in the way they live, then great. I also have been helped because I put myself in a position where maybe I would hear something intelligent that improved my stance. You failed to deliver, but that's out of my hands, I didn't expect much more out of you in this case since people like you always fail in this regard. Doesn't stop me from trying, though. Maybe eventually someone in your camp will finally do something impressive.
I haven't made any jokes
Your comment history is still there.
yea, and my concern about your expertise is not a joke.
If that was a serious comment and you are genuinely concerned about people being able to make comments without degrees and certificates, then I think you really may need to be seeking the expertise of an expert. The way most people are able to interact online is much more open and free. I understand that if you have had extreme trauma or have large underlying problems, then this sort of interaction may be unhealthy for you. Unfortunately, it is up to you to take the steps to put yourself into a safer environment. If not, then things may get worse for you before they get better. I hope you are able to find the help you need if that is really the case.
I didn't ask for excuses. I said you should stop.
I offered no excuses. I'm not sure what your issue is, but on top of being unfamiliar with basic reasoning skills, there are also some definitional misunderstandings. If English is your second language, then I suggest you find a better translation app to help you interact with people online. If not, then maybe a standard dictionary and some willingness to learn is all you need. Standard definitions of terms is paramount to a constructive conversation.
more excuses and blaming others. take responsibility, and stop practicing before you kill someone.
I didn't realise that this was such a traumatic topic for you. I'm sorry if I triggered some intense feelings of guilt. In case you really are contemplating suicide due to having your behavior pointed out, you can call 988 if you are in the US.
I wish you all the best, but I don't feel comfortable continuing this conversation with you. I really am sorry, I didn't realise you were affected so strongly by this. Please call thay number if you are feeling badly. All the best!
no, you said explicitly that you want people to feel guilty. don't lie.
I was referring to the average person, not people with extreme mental issues and suicidal tendencies. I want people who are of a sound mind and able to understand their actions to be aware of what they are doing and feel the appropriate way. I don't want you to act rashly on any suicidal thoughts that you may be having. I want you to be ok and to get the help you need.
you have no idea who you are interacting with but you drop untagged gore right in your comments and accuse people who push back on your unevidenced position and irresponsible rhetoric of being addicts.
you are acting dangerously and you need to re-evaluate your entire approach.
I understand that the reality of your actions disturbs you greatly. Like I said, if you need professional help, then please seek it.
back to the personal attacks.
There were no personal attacks in my comment.
you weren't addressing the subject, you were attacking the individual. that's a personal attack.
are you a psychologist? are you my psychologist? frankly, you are acting irresponsibly and you should consider staying in your own expertise.
It doesn't take any specialty to see this. That's how obvious it is. When someone is deluding themselves to this extent, it is easy to see from the outside. Spend some time with someone who is addicted to things that you are not, and you will see.
you should stop practicing medicine before your local board finds you.