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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Analogies don’t indicate a similar level of morality.

i didnt suggest they did. i'm saying that buying food is disanalagous to rape.

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to be clear, rape is wrong. buying food is not. you don't not-rape in order to reduce rape. you don't-rape because rape is wrong. by contrast, the goal of not-buying meat is to reduce the environmental impact of the meat industry. if that doesn't work, then not-buying meat is not a moral duty (at least, not for that reason. it's possible there is some other reason, but that's not the topic being discussed).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (29 children)

What if you buy food from someone you know murdered children to get it? It's so obviously wrong that buying food is never an immoral act. If you are interested in having philosophical conversations, then you really need to go back to the basics. At this point, you're trying to join an archery competition with a nurf toy. There are undeniably immoral ways to get food. Destroying the planet and torturing animals for slightly cheaper food that you do not absolutely need to survive is absolutely immoral. The reason it is so hard for you to see this is because you are an addict making excuses. Not because you are starving and need the cheapest, most despicable food.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s so obviously wrong that buying food is never an immoral act.

I allowed that there may be some reason buying some food might be immoral.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's progress! You're on a good track. Not sure if you're the same one I sent this link to or not, but if you want to see the living conditions of the animals in the meat system are, here you go. You can judge the morality of it on your own.

https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

why is the bar "absolute need for survival"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (17 children)

Because if not, then you are putting your own mere 20 minutes of pleasure higher than entire lives of tight, confined, indoor, away from their children and parents, raped, drugged, mutilated while alive of animals. There is no chance that if an animal was living like this on your property such that you had to see it daily, you wouldn't save it. As it is, nearly everyone happily hires billionaires to do it for them. Most of the time they hide behind "but I neeeeeed foooood!!!". I've not given those scumbags a penny in many years, and I'm alive, I'm not rich, and I am absolutely well nourished. I've recently done multiple marathons.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (74 children)

Guess again. Almost certainly, you are contributing a significant portion of your energy and money to billionaires who torture animals in ways that you would be unable to even watch.

https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko

I've been wrong plenty before, but I would be astonished if you are capable of even viewing the atrocities that you commit. That's how disgusting the things people hire billionaires to do in the name of cheap meat it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. It does suck to see what the average person chooses to spend their life paying people to do to animals. It especially sucks if you are one of the people paying them to do it.

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