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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Positivity, or at least more constructive comments.

I know a lot of bad stuff is going on worldwide, and I'm not upset the bad news gets mentioned, but it seems we have more tendency as a whole to revert back to the old Reddit ways. More arguing, more downvoting, more piling on to people without any comments why people are disagreeing.

Yesterday there was a discussion about homelessness and I shared stats from Census.gov, as the article from the OP was paywalled. Someone asked a question as to why certain states (basically the red ones) had less reported homeless and why it seemed they had a better handle on the issue than states like CA or NY. While I was typing up a nice response demonstrating causation vs correlation and how looking at a chart showing # of people as counted only in shelters may initially make it seem they had many less homeless when in reality, they have homeless people, but they may either be provided no shelter or they may end up in jail as opposed to being left alone.

By the time my reply was done, I saw the person that asked the question was being downvoted. They hadn't made a statement saying the red states were better with the homeless, they asked a valid question as to why it appeared that way as they had called them the "poor states" and seemed confused how they had funding to keep homelessness down better than the other states. I had also responded to this person before on other occasions when they had questions, so I knew they weren't trolling or spreading misinformation, but no one else, save one other person (with an accurate but snarky reply) chimed in with any type of answer, they just downvoted a legitimate question while offering no help.

I don't feel Lemmy a year ago would have acted this way, and I see it on many threads each day. I for better or worse, have interest in politics and associated things, so I end up reading many negative threads, but I try my hardest to avoid making straight negative comments, and instead try to provide stats or more background info so people are understanding what they're seeing and trying to clear up any confusion so they can make informed choices based on facts. I'll even get downvoted though (not badly) for just sharing info with trustworthy sources. Heck, yesterday I got downvoted for talking about my heat pump, and almost every animal pic I share gets at least 1 or 2 downvotes. Never any comments why, so I just am constantly confused by it.

Just wish we did a bit more to foster a better vibe here. I spend less and less time in other communities and stick to my own, but that doesn't feel like a good way to grow Lemmy. And I'm someone who currently posts and replies daily. Most people still just lurk, no matter what we try to do, and nobody is going to post if they're going to get negged for no reason.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I try to save my snarky or sarcastic comments to top level replies about the article itself, I could do better for certain.

Maintaining a good vibe is an important issue, I used to be more active on Beehaw which was all about that and I still am cognizant of it when I comment there.

[email protected] is one of the cooler communities with your frequent photo posts, we could use a lot more of communities like those.

Ultimately the points don't matter, yet it genuinely feels bad when you or someone that you're certain is posting in good faith gets downvoted, which we need to deal with if we want to encourage posting. Stuff like hiding scores for 20 minutes or vote fuzzing can deal with this issue, but at the same time, I do appreciate having the transparency that Reddit had taken away for years.

A lot of negative news coming in (which has been over the past month) does get reflected in the snarkiness of my comments, but I know that maintaining a positive tone adds a feedback loop for the non-trolls to contribute positively or at least interact genuinely. In threads like this, I try to reward people that have contributed with a similar effort reply.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I'm glad you enjoy my content. I always try to maintain it as an oasis for positive, peaceful, and factual content.

I miss Beehaw. I didn't get it at first since most of Lemmy felt the same, but as time went on, Beehaw kept the same vibe while other instances started to feel more like Reddit. Sadly, Beehaw walled off their garden a bit too much for me, which I respect their choice, but I was already doing the bulk of my posting on World and wanted to keep growing the audience.

Downvotes for trolling or misinformation are important, but when they're used just to be bitchy, I don't get the point. It's rude and discourages the small number of commenters we have.

Snarking at depressing news can be healthy to help process it, but I wish it would focus on the problems and the people causing it, but not be outright crappy to people. Scrolling the threads about Senator Inhofe yesterday, the guy sucked and did a lot of bad things, but the gloating over a guy's death isn't a great look for us. I won't be shedding any tears, but publicly cheering a guy's death isn't something I like keeping company with.

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