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[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (13 children)

Harry Potter. People often talk about a "golden age" of JK Rowling, and I think to myself, what golden age? Harry Potter, both the character and the books, are written like a hyperinflated Cinderella, complete with an attempt at discriminatory apologetics that would make CS Lewis say "you okay bro?"

Also, Luke Skywalker. People hate Anakin for being whiny and weak and Rey for being a Mary Sue, but Luke is both and nobody complains.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Luke had to actually train and failed when he fought his main, more experienced villain for the first time. Then he went back and did more training off screen. I think that makes him less a Mary Sue. He's definitely whiny, though.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Additionally, and probably most importantly, Luke actually isn't strong enough to defeat the emperor at the end. He losses. However, he wins over his father and that's what turns the tide.

Similarly, while Anikan has some mary sue moments, he has a far share of losses (chase for Padme's would be assassin, count doku fight, Obi-Wan fight, etc.)

I think the only time Rey "losses" a battle is in force awakens when she gets captured (but even after being captured she overpowers Ben almost immediately).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just an FYI incase they weren't typos but the word you're after in the first and last paragraph is 'loses'; the one in the second para is correct.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Haha, thanks! I always mess those words up.

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