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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Idk why ppl are down voting this, bro is literally just advocating for public transportation

Ig it's all the insecure pickup truck bros

Edit: typos

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I think people (not me, I agree with glitchdx, overall) are probably down voting because it's a classic example of letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, with a healthy dose of smug mixed in. Smugness is a great dialectical tactic if you hope to entrench people deeper into their views, rather than convince them to consider alternatives through reasoned discussion.

Do I agree that ideally we'd have robust public transit and increased usage of smaller, greener personal transport solutions? Of course I do.

But, incrementalism is progress. Valuable progress. We could argue whether it's more likely to get us to the aforementioned vision of robust public transit or not, but history has proven time and time again that progress takes time and is resisted tooth and nail by monied interests. I don't like it either. I want to wave a wand and have everything change. OP is right. Electric cars are not the solution. But treating symptoms while you work on curing the disease is best practice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

bro is literally just advocating for public transportation

Seems to me that bro is arguing against EVs when that may be the best choice in an individuals control. Even if we’re all for public transportation, that takes years and millions to improve, so EVs may be the best choice available for the time being

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not everyone lives where public transportation is really feasible. He'll EVs aren't even practical where I live.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So we shouldn't bother with it anywhere then?

You're missing the forest for the trees

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I never said that, thanks for speaking for me I really appreciate it though. I am simply saying moving away from ICE just isn't feasible everywhere right now.