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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Creating the demand still gets you partial credit. He does not need to own a battery factory. Regarding rocketry, if it were that easy we'd have done it long ago. It's an iterative technology, where versions come out that improve on previous models. This is something he actually is leading in, last I knew.

Credit where credit is due, he does deserve some where it is fair to give. All people deserve nuanced acknowledgement of any positives they have helped along, regardless of the balance of their actions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Creating the demand still gets you partial credit.

So why does nobody give Nissan, Toyota, Mitsubishi, or any other EV manufacturer credit? Why does Tesla magically get all the credit from everyone when they didn't really do all that much for quite a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_electric_vehicle

Read it carefully... Realize that Tesla didn't start this. As much as I'm not a fan of "china" BYD started literally the same time as Tesla, and BYD is eating Tesla for lunch this whole time.

Tesla's entire "credit" to the industry was marketing their shitty electric car to english markets. Which was literally inevitable. as they we're being out competed for a long time by other manufacturers...

The world's top-selling all-electric cars in 2014 were the Nissan Leaf (61,507), Tesla Model S (31,655), BMW i3 (16,052), and the Renault Zoe (11,323).

The other credit he deserves is for his raving lunatic filled fan-base.


Regarding rocketry, if it were that easy we’d have done it long ago.

He's made no progress since what we've done long ago is my point. If you want to credit him with no progress and tons of ecological damage. Then fair game I'll help you along. But to claim he's done anything worthwhile at all here is absurd.

Edit:

The Tesla Model 3 surpassed the Nissan Leaf in early 2020 to become the world's best selling electric car ever

And Tesla wasn't even the majority in electric cars on the road until VERY recently. Unlike what most people say.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

Sure, if you want to spread the credit around, that's fine. Just don't try to exclude anyone specific just because they're a bad person. Afaik progress has been steady with the re-useable rockets, there's been a steady pace of launch attempts. I don't really follow it closely though.