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A British man is ridiculously attempting to sue Apple following a divorce, caused by his wife finding messages to a prostitute he deleted from his iPhone that were still accessible on an iMac. 

In the last years of his marriage, a man referred to as "Richard" started to use the services of prostitutes, without his wife's knowledge. To try and keep the communications secret, he used iMessages on his iPhone, but then deleted the messages. 

Despite being careful on his iPhone to cover his tracks, he didn't count on Apple's ecosystem automatically synchronizing his messaging history with the family iMac. Apparently, he wasn't careful enough to use Family Sharing for iCloud, or discrete user accounts on the Mac.

The Times reports the wife saw the message when she opened iMessage on the iMac. She also saw years of messages to prostitutes, revealing a long period of infidelity by her husband.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure about the specifics in the Apple ecosystem but I imagine it's like an email address that's connected as IMAP on one main PC, and as POP3 on your phone.
You can download the mails you need to your phone to read them and answer them on the go.
But the mail server is synched to the PC. So deleting stuff on your phone just deletes the messages on your phone, not on the server and not on the PC.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Nah, it's more like Dropbox. It's a multi-way sync between all devices. Dropbox, Google drive and Microsoft one box all have the same kind of problems. Stuff that's supposed to be deleted ends up not getting deleted, stuff that's supposed to be overwritten ends up getting multiple copies with conflicts Even though nothing else has any changes staged. It's totally possible to do it without all that, but there are cost savings are wrapped up in trying to add intelligence in there to make it communicate with the server less.

I don't really give a rat's ass about the guy cheating, but if a company is going to drag me into their distributed ecosystem I fully expect deleted things to delete everywhere and stay deleted. This isn't the first time that they've been in the news recently for deleted things reappearing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

You can "delete for all" since one or two years, but the Standard has long been "deleting from this device only"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

IMAP actually deletes an mail for all the clients.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

yes, that's what I wrote.