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Yeah it's not just "around" but "to" me as in several tens of replies, first in Chapotraphouse, and then all that again in lemmygrad.ml.
Tbf, they should feel absolutely free to be however they want - if that's their therapy to dunk on people - but that shit needs to be labelled in my strong opinion. Like someone can drink their own urine that's fine, but don't put it in a glass and tell me it's Mountain Dew:-D. Consent makes all the difference!!
Anyway, beyond my "delicate sensibilities", this tolerance of the intolerant affects us all. People are leaving, or not joining, the Fediverse b/c of this. I used to recommend it to people but I no longer do that. We talk collectively as if we desire more content, yet we turn away the source of that content - people. This singular issue has the potential to doom this project to failure from the start. Not entirely - b/c some people will remain no matter what happens - but for it to gain wider traction, we need to get past this. Consent should make all the difference! (But right now, it does not.)
So that is why I don't shut up about it:-). Even though it happened months in the past, and I've long since blocked them all. It does affect you - and all of us - even if only indirectly.
Yeah, I get what you're saying and you absolutely shouldn't have to put up with stuff you're not okay with. That's the whole difficulty of free speech. You may have a right to be an asshole, but I have a right to not listen to assholes. And some of these places definitely have a lot of assholes, and do nothing to rein them in, then act surprised when no one wants to be associated with their space.
Disclaimer: I too can be an asshole at times, and I totally understand if people want to block me. That's the joy of freedom.
Me too:-). Anyone who says otherwise is surely lying, even if only fooling themselves. :-P
Speaking of, I found it interesting to read hexbear.net's own words as they defederated from other instances, even against the will of their users - i.e. they collected poll results, then went 100% in the opposite direction as they indicated:-P. Many of the individual users were saying similarly: that certain individuals needed to be banned bc if not then other instances were going to want to defederate from them, even if only at an individual user level.
However, they refused to do so: the individual users refused to hold themselves back, and then community mods refused to censor them, and then instance admins refused to ban them, and therefore other instances had to defederate from the entire instance as a result. It's like Russia or China irl not curtailing its own leader, thereby inflicting their ills upon the other nations of the world, near and far. Such authoritarian and nonconsensual behaviors need to be stopped, and perhaps will be eventually, but the longer it is allowed to flourish the greater number of innocents will get caught up in the drama first. i.e., it is perhaps the entire Fediverse that will suffer if content creators choose not to come here bc we are too extremist/leftist, bc we won't curtail our most excessive members - again they won't do it themselves, but also nobody else will either. i.e. it's not enough simply to block things on a personal level, if we want to entice more normal people (even those who don't use Linux!!?:-D) to join the Fediverse.
That's a good point, and I'll consider that.