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Q. Is this really as harmful as you think?

A. Go to your parents house, your grandparents house etc and look at their Windows PC, look at the installed software in the past year, and try to use the device. Run some antivirus scans. There’s no way this implementation doesn’t end in tears — there’s a reason there’s a trillion dollar security industry, and that most problems revolve around malware and endpoints.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

Why reach for a fictional example when so many real world examples exist? Just curious because I think of Bezos, Musk, and to a lesser degree Gates as examples of smart people doing bad things. I mean there's several very smart people that have done good things as well but those are harder to come by. Even people like Alfred Nobel created something he thought would save the lives of miners only for his invention to be used for war. Einstein also did a lot for the advancement of theoretical physics and his work was subsequently used as the foundation of the atomic bomb. It's actually way harder to come up with a Tony Stark type smart "good guy" in the real world for me because reality is often far more grey.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I don't think of Bezos, Musk, or Gates as exceptionally intelligent. They are lucky and influential, sure. Intelligent? Musk is automatically out just because of his Twitter feed. The other two haven't shown themselves to be particularly intelligent, just ruthless and efficient when it comes to generating profit.

As far as the other side of that coin, I tend to agree. Most of the really intelligent people that have existed have been pretty grey morally speaking.

Hence why I went with fictional examples. At least with Lex Luthor, there's very little grey area in his moral stances.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Gates is insanely intelligent, like demonstratably so. Musk and Bezos are also very highly intelligent people. Do they have terrible, awful, even downright despicable views? Absolutely. But don't be fooled, all three of those people are incredibly smart with actual high IQs (not in the braggart, "I have a very high IQ." sense either).

Intelligence doesn't translate to empathy or wisdom. Some of the least book smart people I've met have been profoundly wise at times, and some of those same people were incredibly empathetic. Unfortunately, I think all three of those people (Musk, Bezos, and Gates) are lacking in those traits, but saying they aren't in fact measurably intelligent is only fooling yourself.

I say this as someone who was raised by a measurably very highly intelligent person who could be, and was, a complete monster at times, and had some really twisted views on the world/other people. Lucky for me I didn't inherit that innate Intelligence I guess!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These totally normal human beings you sound like you deify...are you their psychiatrist, psychologist, therapist, counselor? Short of those professions or a former tutor who happened to treat all three...

Well, interesting thing to devote anecdotal brain power to, I'll tell you that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah totally that's why I said they were basically morally corrupt and used them as an example of smart people doing bad things... Maybe your judgement is a bit clouded?

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