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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (8 children)

A classic Monty Python joke from Live at the Hollywood Bowl. Definitely some truth in this... I live in Germany with some of the best lagers in the world, and having a Miller Light for the first time was a really weird experience.

Now when I've visited the US quite a few times, I can say I dislike the expensive craft beers way more compared to the classic american lagers... They are way too hoppy, but the worst thing is how much more expensive they are! Like a pale ale can be over ten dollars, but a pint of PBR is 3.50. Beer should be cheap, and I don't really like how this craft beer culture made the prices go so high.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why haven't any American brewers been able to make a solid lager? I typically get Spaten or Becks, but pretty much every American lager I try is terrible

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It is very hard to brew a good lager, like the good Helles style famously brewed in Bavaria. I've been on a mission every time I come to the US to find good Helles, and I found two places that get very close:

This place in Seattle: https://maps.app.goo.gl/czPMtm4xkunkopEc8

And this in Weaverville: https://maps.app.goo.gl/wuNS33EcQ1qC9zfb9

But quite often even if they advertise the beer as German style Helles, it has some quality that makes it very different. Usually it's sweet or even hoppy. I think for an american a special beer should have a special taste, but a good Helles is just very fresh and crisp beer.

Edit: and Becks is one of the worst beers in Germany in my opinion... At least nobody tries to sell overpriced Sternburg here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yes "sweet or hoppy" sums it up so well. I've been traveling a lot to the USA the last few years and whenever I bring this up at the inevitable craft brewery we end up at the Americans think I have no sense of taste in beer.

But they're all the same and horrible. They've been brain washed.

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