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Google rolled out AI overviews across the United States this month, exposing its flagship product to the hallucinations of large language models.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (13 children)

It can tell you how to stack things on top of each other the best way to get a high tower. Etc.

Those are not random sentences. If you can not define thinking in a way this machine fails at, then stop saying it does not think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (12 children)

A parrot can be trained to tell you how to stack things on top of each other the best way to get a high tower.

This is just an electronic parrot, millions of times faster to train than the biological parrot, specialized in repetition alone (can't really do anything else a parrot can) and which has been trained on billions of texts.

You're confusing one specific form in which humans externally express cogniscence with the actual cogniscence itself: just because intelligence can produce some forms of textual communication doesn't mean that the relationship holds in the opposite direction and such forms of textual communication require intelligence, or if you will, just because you can photograph a real pizza to get a picture of a pizza doesn't mean a picture of a pizza is actually of a real pizza and not something with glue to make it look like it has stringy melted cheese.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Again, it is absolutely capable to come up with it's own logical stuff, hence my example. Stop saying it just copies existing stuff, that is simply wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it is absolutely capable to come up with it’s own logical stuff

interesting, in my experience, it's only been good at repeating things, and failing on unexpected inputs - it's able to answer pretty accurately if a small number is even or odd, but not if it's a large number, which indicates it's not reasoning but parroting answers to me

do you have example prompts where it showed clear logical reasoning?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Examples showing that it comes up with it's own solutions to an answer? Just ask it something that could not have been on the Internet before. Professor talking about AGI in GPT 4

Personal examples would be to code python to solve a 2D thermal heat flux problem given some context and constraints.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Professor talking about AGI in GPT 4

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

well, i just tried it, and its answer is meh --

i asked it to transcribe "zenquistificationed" (made up word) in IPA, it gave me /ˌzɛŋˌkwɪstɪfɪˈkeɪʃənd/, which i agree with, that's likely how a native english speaker would read that word.

i then asked it to transcribe that into japaense katakana, it gave me "ゼンクィスティフィカションエッド" (zenkwisuthifikashon'eddo), which is not a great transcription at all - based on its earlier IPA transcription, カション (kashon') should be ケーシュン (kēshun'), and the エッド (eddo) part at the end should just, not be there imo, or be shortened to just ド (do)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

this paper says it is capable of original thought. It also "speaks" of it in high regard in other things. That is also my experience using it for... over a year?! now.

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