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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Just useful enough to become incredibly dangerous to anyone who doesn't know what they're doing. Isn't it great?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Now non-coders can finally wield the foot-gun once reserved only for coders! /s

Truth be told, computer engineering should really be something that one needs a licence to do commercially, just like regular engineering. In this modern era where software can be ruinous to someone's life just like shoddy engineering, why is it not like this already.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Look, nothing will blow up if I mess up my proxy setup on my machine. I just won't have internet until I revert my change. Why would that be different if I were getting paid for it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nothing happens if you fuck up your proxy, but if you develop an app that gets very popular and don't care about safety, so hackers are able to take control over your whole Server they can do a lot of damage. If you develop software for critical infrastructure it can actually cost human lives if you fuck up your security systems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but people with master's degrees also fuck this up, so it's not like some accreditation system will solve the issue of people making mistakes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but its probably more likely that the untaught might fuck up some stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Is it, though? A lot of self-taught programmers do great work. I'm not sure this is true

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Setting up proxy is not engineering.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have to actually modify the code to properly package it for my distro, so it's engineering because I have to make decisions for how things work

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't see how this supports your point then. If "setting up proxy" means "packaging it to run on thousands user machines" then isn't there obvious and huge potential for a disastrous fuckup?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

No, because it either runs the program successfully, or it fails to launch. I don't mess with the protocol. It runs as root because it needs to set the iptables when turned on to be a "global" proxy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It’s pretty fun, interesting times ahead. I wonder what kind of bullshit will take place and can’t wait to see that lol. Between all the climate, ai, warmongering future won’t be boring guys that is certain. Unpack your popcorn