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I honestly don't believe I will have any legal trouble because I don't do anything like cp or worse, I just pirate media I like, not even porn. But across users of communities, or on public trackers, is IP exposure something to be concerned about?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

In my country it is illegal to share, but not illegal to download, since when consuming you're not meant as a websurfer to know the source of that something. Should that law change, it cannot retroactively affect something that happened in the past. So I don't plan ever to share anything publicly, but only the very few things I'm very passionate about to the point I want to share them with communities of friends which you can access through invites only. Sharing a back up copy with your friends is not illegal either even if the EULA or whatever says it is, unlike for example in the UK.

I was specifically asking about cybersecurity in general.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

In my country it is illegal to share

But torrenting means you're also sharing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes but you didn't create the torrent first

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But who created it is irrelevant, the seeding is the legal issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I think that's not necessarily true. There's certainly some good reasons to have a distinction between the original uploader and all the rest of the additional seeders. It's going to come down to local law.

An analogy is if you buy some illicit substance and split it up with a few friends who pay you their share. Whether or not your local authorities considers you an illegal drug dealer could be highly dependent on scale, profitability, frequency, clientele, etc. Those details could be the difference between a slap on the wrist and some hard time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I can't speak for every obscure jurisdiction that might exist, but I've never heard of that being a factor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I don't know the laws that well, but there is a distinction in Canadian law between uploading and downloading. I'm not entirely sure how applicable to torrenting that is, but I think there's a reasonable argument that if you are the original uploader, you must have uploaded the content in it's entirety, whereas that's not necessarily true for anyone else downloading the torrent, and certainly not provably so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

@[email protected] Lol. Torrenting is sharing. And for now you haven't been visited, but I'm certain Hollywood will pay a visit to your local enforcer chief to explain to him the technicalities over fine wine & dinner.

The risk is still there. Keep your share ratios to 3 so you don't look like a big problem as @[email protected] put it. And when you get a letter from somebody complaining, it's time to start looking into a VPN.

The second best thing to do is your own research into your country's laws, and subscribing to e-mail alerts so you can know if the law will change. At least a google alert at a minimum.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

In some countries private law firms chase down infringers on behalf of copyright holders. They then attempt shakedowns with the threat of legal action if you don't pay. They have a financial interest to catch people, and moral compasses vary.

Also, mistakes can happen (you, your family, guests using your wifi, in the courts, in the ISPs, in the law firms, in the tech they are using to identify people). Shit happens.

And if (when) it happens, then you would still have to deal with it, costing you time and money.

Understand the risks and make choices to minimize them if you can.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I misunderstood what you were asking then since IP monitoring is a commonly used by copyright trolls.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Don't apologize, your answer was the most informative