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Basically title. Looks like wire is now heavily being targeted towards corporates. In a corporate environment you don't need too much privacy, so I was wondering...

Is wire messenger private in 2023?

Where does it stands in the current stack among WhatsApp, signal, simplex etc..?

Exactly how much data is being collected?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Full deniability is really difficult. You need to be able to fully trust not only the encryption protocol, but also the company hosting the servers as well as any companies they work with.

The Snowden Leaks as well as the increase in data breaches have shown that that is generally not a good idea.

If you really need deniability I would recommend to look at messengers which do not require any server component and communicate via Tor. One good option might be Briar.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What about simplex? It looks like it uses random message queues for each connection (contact) and once deleted from devices then it doesn't look likethere is any solid way of identifying if a connection existed...

(NB: simplex don't have an account for a user in their cloud at all because of how it works so recovery is impossible without latest backups, so that's a no go for me)