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The Tesla Model 3 dropped from first place to third, behind the Toyota Camry and the Honda Civic, among all passenger cars sold.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

My current ICE may be due for replacement after over a decade of use.

I want an EV with NACS that isn't a Tesla. And so I wait. I don't need anything complicated, but I don't want to own a car with the "wrong" kind of port.

Edit: Or they could layoff the entire Super Charger team at a time the build out is most necessary and leave things super uncertain.

To car manufacturers: don't trust Musk. I don't have strong feelings about which connector "wins," I just don't want to be using the one no one else does. And that depresses the value of the car.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

You have exactly summed up my views. I currently have a 2020 MY and it convinced me that I probably won't buy another ICE vehicle. With all the crap coming out of Tesla and Musk lately, I also can't imagine getting another Tesla.

I'm just waiting for NACS to be built in and hoping today's layoff news doesn't ruin that as well...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Pretty sure you can get an NACS adapter now, but otherwise non Tesla vehicles pre-equiped with a NACS port are due to arrive next year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You will always have the “wrong” kind of port for the life of the car. If you have NACS you need J1772 adapter to charge at some places. If you have CCS you need NACS adapter to charge at Tesla Superchargers. As someone that has both Tesla and Rivian, it’s not a big deal to put an adapter in your trunk and use it when you need it and you need an adapter for both cars. It. Doesn’t. Matter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It. Doesn’t. Matter.

Yet. Eventually a USB-C will emerge. Then only logitech (backward OEMs) won't support it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yet.

Which is why I specifically said “for the life of the car”. Every car will need an adapter for at least the next decade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oof. You think it will take that long? Very honest question.

If that's how long it takes, I'll be very sad. You may be right but that bums me out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Cheaper to build new chargers at new locations than retrofit old ones. You’re already seeing that. So you can choose to have the “default” connector but not have access to all chargers or simply carry an adapter that gives you access to all chargers. Why the hold out against an adapter that costs a fraction of the car? Seriously self defeating attitude.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My car runs and I use it infrequently. Hell, I use it so the battery doesn't die. No lie. Where I like is imminently walkable.

So I don't need to rush into anything. That's not self-defeating; it's just realism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I don't want to own a car with the "wrong" kind of port.

Basing your buying decision on not needing an adapter is absolutely self defeating for the reasons I’ve made abundantly clear.