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Microsoft is starting to enable ads inside the Start menu on Windows 11 for all users. After testing these briefly with Windows Insiders earlier this month, Microsoft has started to distribute update KB5036980 to Windows 11 users this week, which includes “recommendations” for apps from the Microsoft Store in the Start menu.

Luckily you can disable these ads, or “recommendations” as Microsoft calls them. If you’ve installed the latest KB5036980 update then head into Settings > Personalization > Start and turn off the toggle for “Show recommendations for tips, app promotions, and more.” While KB5036980 is optional right now, Microsoft will push this to all Windows 11 machines in the coming weeks.

Microsoft’s move to enable ads in the Windows 11 Start menu follows similar promotional spots in the Windows 10 lock screen and Start menu. Microsoft also started testing ads inside the File Explorer of Windows 11 last year before disabling the experiment and saying the test was “not intended to be published externally.” Hopefully that experiment remains very much an experiment.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I wanna like Linux but I play too many games with anti-cheats that just don't work on Linux yet :(

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I mean, you’re not wrong. Anticheat is pretty much the one thing that Linux doesn’t play nicely with. Given, it’s largely on the game producers to fix, not on the OS. But it’s still a valid complaint from an end user perspective.

If Linux fans truly want to encourage migration, stifling valid complaints isn’t the way to do it. The issue with everyone going “oh it’s so easy, it’s so much better, you won’t regret it at all” is that as soon as a user encounters a hangup they’ll be more inclined to just abandon it altogether. Because if everyone is going “oh it’s so easy” but you’re not having an easy time with it, then you’ll quickly conclude that maybe it’s just not the right fit for you. And the people going “lul just don’t play those games then dummy” need to get some friends. Because when all of those friends are playing the shiny new game but they’re locked out of it due to their choice of OS, they may consider dual-booting Windows just to be able to keep up with their friends.

But this is Lemmy and the Linux fanboys can’t tolerate a single toe out of line. So I guess it makes sense why you got downvoted.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Anticheat is pretty much the one thing that Linux doesn’t play nicely with.

It's the other way around.

Anticheat doesn't play well with Linux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Did you stop reading right there to comment? Because I say exactly that in the very next sentence. I agree with you. It’s just odd that you’d quote that one specific sentence with a “well akshually” when I literally addressed that exact thing one sentence down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

you say its on the game devs to fix, but game devs don't usually roll their own anticheat. And when they do it would then be their problem, i suppose it could be them having had a bad decision i suppose?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

An important distinction, for sure

Edit: this was not sarcasm, I honestly agree. Lemmy needs a not sarcasm tag.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I will say the solution to that IS to not play those games, but that only starts to work when enough people do that to hurt the bottom line of the devs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But it’s still a valid complaint from an end user perspective.

If Linux fans truly want to encourage migration

it's technically a valid complaint, it's not a linux problem though. Don't come crying to us when your game doesn't work, we've literally made 90% of all games ever work under linux with zero effort for the end user.

It'd be like buying a proprietary macbook for instance, and then when you find out that the only people who want to service it, are the people who sold you it at an aggressive price, who will then still, ask you for even more money. Only to complain about right to repair not letting you repair your device, even though it's an apple issue.

What do you want us to say? We can't physically test every game to ever exist, and premeditate every issue to ever have possibly occurred to someone. Part of linux is literally learning how to solve these problems, that's why linux is such a great system OS, when you have problems, you can often just fix them yourself.

I mean sure maybe linux is too hard for you, how hard did you try to understand it? Maybe it's not the right fit for you, but then i would expect people to just not care about linux. Rather than call it shit, because they didn't understand it.

Also, dualbooting is a valid option, a lot of linux users even have a dedicated windows machine somewhere in their house just because of how shitty everything is these days. Nobody is saying you can't do that.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly the best solution is to find alternatives

If the audience stays on Windows then there is no incentive to support Linux

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Its not that easy. There is no alternative for some of the big games. I play genshin impact and honkai star rail and these games do not run on linux.

I use linux but keep windows dual booted purely for these games.

Asking people to give up their hobby is not a solution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Oh thats great! Thanks for the notice :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I hear you, it sucks sometimes, especially with Asian-made games/software which LOVE locking themselves to one OS or platform literally for completely random, arbitrary reasons. You can still play them on mobile though. Especially given that you don't quite want to install a Linux OS on your phone yet (I mean traditional Linux, not Android or a de-Googled Android offshoot) since that's still largely a work in progress and not ready for primetime yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Asking people to give up their hobby is not a solution.

A solution doesn’t mean everyone will use it

Even if no one uses it that is still what has to happen for devs to target Linux instead of Windows

Imagine every Genshin player moved to Linux. Would the game move to Linux or just die?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

genshin impact and honkai star rail

aren't these both like pay 2 win, or at least free to play? Isn't the whole genre of these games to make money off of it's players?

Sounds like a really healthy hobby.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you want the characters, yeah. I have been playing since it came out and never paid a cent.

While playing you get a ton of the gems you need to get characters. I play for the story and the world and music etc. If i get a character, that's great. If i don't, i don't.

The whole game and story and world is free. Only the characters cost gems.

The only part to me that is pay to win is the abyss, but even that i got through with my free characters.

Also, it's not nice to tell me my hobby isn't healthy when you don't know me or how i play.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Also, it’s not nice to tell me my hobby isn’t healthy when you don’t know me or how i play.

i mean, i just said it sounds like it. Doesn't even mean im right or wrong. We all have really unhealthy habits, and hobbies tend to accentuate them as well.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

As far as I know, pretty much the only anti-cheat that doesn't work on linux is the kernel-level malware kind. I personally avoid those games at all costs regardless. That's easy for me to say though, since I barely play any competitive games...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Easy solution, stop playing those game /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

shrug.

its what I did. Its not that hard a sacrifice.

really only asian mmos that had the obnoxious no-worky-linux anticheat to begin with, in my experience with what i played.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Honestly same. The game I gave up was Planetside 2 but it works on Linux now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

i mean, most of those games just aren't very good games. Drugs are pretty cool, alcohol is pretty fun, people actively avoid that shit though.

It's up to the person whether they value playing a single game more than experiencing a wholly different and more respecting operating system i suppose.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Technically they do work, but the publisher is blocking Linux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The launchers work. The games do not. But plenty of games are going that way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully those games go to steam deck as that seems like a way to have a market share they might then cater for (I can't play BF on Linux due to the antichear requirements)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Only BFV. BF1, BFBC2, BF3 and BF4 all still run perfectly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is this true for 2042? Honestly would use a Linux distro otherwise (probably Ubuntu but might look for an alternative)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

2042 always used EAC, and EA refused to enable EAC for Linux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

check https://areweanticheatyet.com to see if they work, they might

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Demand better from the devs. And seeks out games that work on linux. There are plenty of them.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

Another option is playing not on your hardware entirely - at least where I live, there are computer clubs where you can use high-end gaming computers for a small per-hour fee.