this post was submitted on 15 Apr 2024
291 points (96.5% liked)
Technology
59390 readers
2617 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I read that Tesla being Tesla reinvented a ton of very standard components that other car manufacturers have been using for decades. So there are a lot of weird issues with Teslas that you wouldn't see in a car from an established car maker. It's Tesla ego which makes them think that they can design component better than a whole industry over decades and decades could.
When the Model S came out, I thought it was the height of cool, but I wouldn't consider buying one of their vehicles now. I think the only reason they even kinda did well was that the rest of the car makers were slow to start making EVs that looked decent and were priced reasonably. Now that the big boys are in the game, Tesla has been dropping the price of some of their models to try and stay competitive. But their cars have always had quality assurance issues, and their support isn't decent at all, since they try to blame customers for things outside of their control.
Mostly i agree.
However:
Drive by wire is something that they should have implemented decades ago. It is a ridiculously proven and safe technology. Edit: just not in the Cybertruck. Or GM.
In Planes, where there are 3 or more levels of redundant power and hydraulic systems with an ability to fail down to a limited mechanical operation mode if all the other backup systems fail. It's proven because they designed it with a stupid level of failsafes.
There's no redundant power in the Tesla Drive By Wire system, if the power is cut, you lose the ability to steer. You've got brakes, but you're without any of the assistance that the car normally provides. It's so fucking stupid I can't believe it's allowed on the road. If anything goes wrong that cuts power while you're in motion, you're suddenly captive in 3.3 tons of stainless steel without crumple zones, without the ability to steer, with naught but your unaided foot on the brake peddle to determine your outcome. It's nothing like the multiple layers of failures you'd have to endure to find yourself in trouble in a plane both for the power and the hydraulics.
Not even that, with modern brakes being electrically enhanced, they are sometimes almost unpressable when the power is cut. Try turning the ignition off while still rolling and see how hard it gets (may depend on model/brand)
Very true. Perhaps my statement which continued on beyond what you quoted didn't make it clear, but I did point out what you said: "You've got brakes, but you're without any of the assistance that the car normally provides" as well as stating later that you've got "naught but your unaided foot on the brake peddle" both of which were intended to say that it's pretty hard to brake in most cars these days without power brakes.
I don't know how the Cybertruck breaks down on the easy <-> difficult manual braking spectrum, but I imagine that given the high gross vehicle weight and large wheels, it probably steers more towards the difficult end of the spectrum than the easy. Such a dumpster fire of a vehicle.
Ah ok. I assumed you meant stuff like assistance systems. I think you're right about the break resistance of this thing. It weighs 3 fuckting tons (over 6k lbs), this thing will not be stoppable by muscle power alone. I am so glad, that there is no chance of ever meeting one in my country
Lucky 😆