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But of course we all know that the big manufacturers don't do this not because they can't but because they don't want to. Planned obsolescence is still very much the name of the game, despite all the bullshit they spout about sustainability.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (56 children)

There are indeed good aspects to this product.

But I won't join the "Fairphone good" circle jerk and give them the free publicity, because just like Apple and Samsung, they removed the headphone jack from their phones soon before the launch of these headphones, in other words, artificially creating the problem and need to sell you their expensive solution.

You don't get to ride the "we are pro customer!" free publicity train while also wanting to be the next Apple.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago (27 children)

I understand people's desire for a headphone port, but I really don't understand the hate for devices that don't have one. It would be one thing if they vendor-locked Bluetooth headphones so you had to use theirs, but it really just seems like a common sense move in a world where Bluetooth reigns supreme.

As long as a USB-C adapter still provides the same functionality, I really don't see anyone's choices being taken away. If it is one less physical port on the device that helps streamline the hardware, I'm all for it too.

And if it is a dealbreaker, you don't have to buy a fairphone.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (19 children)

The problem is that there are fewer and fewer options with a headphone jack. My current phone has one and I use it all the time.

Bluetooth sucks for a variety of reasons, such as:

  • not private
  • needs to charge (I've had BT headphones die on road trips or whatever)
  • not great sound quality

I also like using bluetooth headphones sometimes, but having an option is good, and I don't want to bring a dongle around everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Get an USB c dongle and leave it on the cord then... I too wish we still had jacks, but that battle's lost, and attacking the only somewhat conscientious phone manufacturer for following trends set by bigger companies is myopic. They do what they must to compete, it's not like they're drowning in money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Even USB-C dongles suck.

There are two types: ones that passes through the analog audio signal from the phone's internal DAC, and ones that have a built in DAC and pretty much acts as external USB sound card. You need to know which type your phone supports and which type it is you're buying.

If it's the type that has a built-in DAC (which I think is the most common but I might be wrong) they are fury-inducing absolute monstrous pains in the ass if there's the slightest glitch in the USB connection. Because it's like unplugging the audio device. Playback just stops for seemingly no reason and it doesn't resume once the connection is good again.

My solution is wired headphones plugged in to a small BT receiver I keep in my pocket. That way I get both an annoying cable and shitty audio quality lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't see why you'd buy the more expensive one with the DAC. If the quality from the jack was enough before, the quality from the USB must be as well, it's not like they removed the DAC from the SoC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Because some phones doesn't support passing through the analog signal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Who said I'm attacking anyone? I'm not saying "don't buy a Fairphone because it doesn't have a headphone jack," I'm saying phone manufacturers like Fairphone should include a headphone jack.

How is removing a headphone jack helping them compete? They cost well under $1 each on Amazon for 10, and much cheaper in bulk. The trickier part is waterproofing it, so they could just sell two models, one without the jack with a high waterproof rating, and one with the jack. All that would need to change is the case.

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