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[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

@jjjalljs @DharkStare https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because I have been completely unable to find it again and this seems like a relevant place to ask: does anyone have a link to an article similar to this, that I believe might have been titled ‘My First Name is My Last Name’? This is made extra hard to look up because I’ve forgotten the specific culture and details it’s talking about, but it’s about the same basic issue with cultural conventions on names.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I used to work with a Greek guy called Argyros Argyros - cool guy, but suspect he was an outlier. Named after his dad, so certainly some people are named that way. Icelandic for instance would traditionally use "Given Name" "Patronym from father" - Magnus Magnusson was quite famous in the UK; Björk Guðmundsdóttir might be the most famous internationally, but she's not a "double". There's quite a few cultures - Hungarian, Chinese, Japanese, ... - that write their names as "Family Name" "Given Name" as opposed to the other way around, if that's what you mean?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Apologies for being so sketchy on the details but I really can’t remember too many of the specifics. I’m fairly certain it wasn’t that his family name came first, because that’s fairly straightforward. I think the author might have been from an east or southeast Asian culture? I think that part of the essay might have been about how addressing him as Mr. Firstname is actually more formal than Mr. Lastname, even though Firstname is not his family name. I don’t want to keep guessing on more details about how the naming conventions were different because I’m probably going to get it wrong, I have fairly low confidence in what I remember from it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I think that part of the essay might have been about how addressing him as Mr. Firstname is actually more formal than Mr. Lastname, even though Firstname is not his family name

Could it be Turkish? Just stumbled on this section on the Wikipedia article on mononyms

Surnames were introduced in Turkey only after World War I, by the country's first president, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, as part of his Westernization and modernization programs. Common people can be addressed semi-formally by their given name plus the title Bey or Hanım (without surname), whereas politicians are often known by surname only (Ecevit, Demirel).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I love that article. There are also ones about dates and times. The more you deal with dates and times, the more you realize how messed up they are.