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Are you suggesting "banning guns"? If so, genuine curiosity, how would you go about doing it?
I guess a good start would be document gun holders digitally and not on a pile of paper where nobody finds anything and has water damage. Another approach would be not having guns sold in the supermarket. Furthermore, you could ban ads for guns and make it very hard to buy heavy stuff used only in war zone. And lastly restrict who and how weapons are allowed to be transported on man. Of course, one has to have a valid reason to have a weapon on them. Going shopping with a gun out of fear is mot a reason.
First we have to stop bringing new weapons to people, than we can think about collecting
I’m Swiss, we have nearly as many private weapons per household as Americans have, but we have way less shootings, all the things above apply here and I think it kinda works.
Nearly all of your suggestions are already part of New York state law.
Exceptions:
No registration required for non-"assault weapon" long guns.
Open carry in New York is not legal. Concealed carry requires a license. I believe that requiring a reason to carry for obtaining a license to carry was recently ruled unconstitutional. I don't know whether you can legally require a reason for the act of carrying the gun.
It seems like New York goes in the right direction then, nice to see! I bet one sees the difference in the statistics for gun violence compared to other states of America. Umm, is NY a state or a city or both? 😂 not so sure right now
Both.
New York state's murder rate and firearm murder rate both rank in the second quartile.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state#2019_data
If you order by "Murder Rate (per 100,000) (2019)"
Do the states with less murders per 100,000 than New York have more strict gun rules? (In case you happen to know that)
Everytown only ranks California higher than New York.
https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/
This is an overview of gun laws in different states:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state
Everytownresearch.org looks like a really great resource! 😃thank you very much for that. So as it looks like, gun laws aren’t the only thing that influence gun violence. But if you ignore the statistical outliers then you see the correlation.
Everytown is a gun control advocacy group. The purpose of the website is to persuade people that 1) gun control works, and 2) there is a need for more gun control. Keep that bias in mind, because their analysis of gun violence is one dimensional. That occasionally results in some conjectures about gun violence that don't make sense.
In the first scenario, strong gun laws don't result in lower levels of gun violence because people can buy a gun in a neighboring state with weaker gun control laws. That explanation is plausible.
In the second scenario, strong gun laws in neighboring states result in lower levels of gun violence in the given states with weak gun laws because...?
Oh dear 😅 you got me here
I agree, having strong gun law in states around leading to weaker gun violence makes not so much sense. I would guess those states have ether a less dense population or have a historical culture (like an unwritten law in some sort) which prevents gun violence for some extent.
They happen to have very low poverty rates.
I see 😄 I guess that explains a lot
So the plan should be to make the Poverty gap smaller as well as having some good gun laws.
Hope they’ll do it 🤞🏻
TIL they show ads for guns. What exactly do they advertise?
Well that is one thing I’m not 100% sure, but NRA 100% does political pro gun ads on TV (and most likely precisely targeted in social media) I just assumed there are normal gun ads since, well, it’s America.
https://youtu.be/ks2_wY7f-MM?si=SWzCvmHLKdys7jFt
Just skipped through that and it seems most tv networks refuse gun ads, but it seems not illegal by law to show gun ads on tv.
The same way we banned private ownership of nuclear missiles.
Yeah that was crazy when they had to go around and confiscate all those nuclear missiles from millions of American households.
God, please don't give the GOP any ideas, the last thing we need is nuclear proliferation among Trumpers.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2009/02/11/slain-neo-nazi-angry-over-obama-victory-reportedly-prepared-‘dirty-bomb’-components
Could ask Australia
I would copy-paste what already worked in Australia, which used to have similar gun rights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0aGGOK4kAM