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Trying to squeeze some more storage in my MiniPC. I have questions about these. These use hardward RAID with selectable modes (Individual/JBOD/RAID1/RAID2).

  1. If I use RAID 1 and one of the drives fails, will I know?

  2. If a drive fails, and a slap in a new one, will it internally begin repairing RAID 1 again?

  3. Can I use these as "individual" or JBOD and have 2 separate drives through the same connector, and use something like TrueNAS to software-RAID them?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (28 children)

Neat, but I see it personally as the worst of both worlds, unless you have a bunch of NVMEs sitting around.

You're going to be bottlenecked by SATA speeds, so even one NVME would be bottlenecked, let alone 2. So for me, going with a larger SATA SSD (which you could of course RAID with another) would probably get you still better speeds.

Then you have issue of it breaking. Personally, I have never had good luck with secondary board RAID items like this. They always fail after a while. The only stable raids I have seen are motherboards and SAS. Whenever I see "Make this interface into another RAID" I think of the.... 5-7 failed cards sitting behind me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (20 children)

unless you have a bunch of NVMEs sitting around.

SATA, not NVMe.

You're going to be bottlenecked by SATA speeds

Speed is not a concern for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (16 children)

If you don't have a bunch of nvmes lying around that you want to use, then why not just go for a few sata drives and raid those together? You do what you like, to me that just seems like more storage for your buck

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just as an uninvolved third party, I'm trying to figure out how NVMe entered this response to a question about a SATA to SATA form factor converter

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because M.2 equals NVMe in some people’s minds, I suppose

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Right, mostly because the only things you plug into an m.2 slot right now are nvme drives. Which is why I'm honestly trying to figure out what OP wants. They say speed isn't a concern just storage, so why not go for a larger SATA SSD then? Unless I'm missing something, buying this adapter to add m.2 slots would only give op a couple m.2 slots, vs just adding a sata drive itself. Honestly I don't know what they're trying to to do and their comments have made me more confused

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

My desktop has a wireless card in an m.2 slot (as do those of my wife and both children), one of my laptops has a SATA m.2 as its only drive because it only has a SATA m.2 slot, another laptop has a SATA m.2 as the scratch drive because it has one NVMe and one SATA, and "the only things you plug into an m.2 slot right now are nvme drives" is such a wild take that I'm baffled as to where it came from

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

so why not go for a larger SATA SSD then?

Because there's no redundancy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Which is fair, I suppose, if you really only have one SATA port left. Then a RAID 1 through that device might work well enough. Wouldn’t be my first choice though… and definitely not for RAID 0. Not that RAID 0 should be anyone’s first choice, nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Just making the best with what I've got.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Neither is there if this controller dies.... Like the other person said, my response would be "you don't have 2 sata ports then?". Better raid support and better capacity. Take it from my life lessons. Raid 0 is not a backup, it is barely redundant. It's primary use is production environments where you do not want your system to go down when a drive fails.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Neither is there if this controller dies....

Yes. There is. Unless the controller decides before it dies to wipe the disks for some reason?

Like the other person said, my response would be "you don't have 2 sata ports then?"

And like I said to the other person, "No."

Raid 0 is not a backup, it is barely redundant.

No one is talking about backups.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Okay, I don't know why you're downvoting me, and I'm over it. I was trying to help you and understand the question, I was trying not to be argumentative. My honest responses haven't changed on your questions, I think it's going to fail quickly, I think you're going to regret it, and I don't think it's good for your use case. But hey, what do I know, I've only done basically the same thing and self hosted stuff for 15 years, and was only trying to help you avoid the mistakes I made. Sorry I didn't just agree with everything you said and was trying to figure out alternatives.

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