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The US tried no dst back in 1970. After 2 years people wanted it back.
They did permanent DST instead of no DST (permanent standard time), so they had dark mornings in winter.
Is it still 1970 today?
What is so different today that people wouldn't change their mind again about DST?
It's 54 years later. Are you expecting a full list or something?
So because you read the news on your phone instead of the newspaper somehow everything is different with the sunrise?
You're right. The only thing that has changed is that newspapers are smaller.
If the list is so long, then it should be easy to list one thing that is different today that would make people not want DST.
I don't need a list. Just one example.
Apart from nearly 2/3 of Americans polled wanting permanent DST, the massive technological advancement, interconnectedness of the entire world, and an ever-growing proportion of renewable energy?
Yes Americans want permanent DST like in 1970.
Why specifcally would cause a need for a change in sunrise/sunset?
There was massive technological change from 1920 to 1970 when it was given up for 2 years before it was changed back.
The current shift to solar would mean an even greater need to synchronize energy use with sunlight.
You're ignoring the fact that technological advancement is exponential, not linear; world interconnectedness; energy storage; and other renewable energy sources such as geothermal, hydro, and wind.
But what specifically about the technology means you want the sunrise time to be different?
None of those are a currently a significant percentage of energy usage. Nor do they have relation to sunrise/sunset that would require a change.
Wind alone accounts for over 10% of the nation's power, and is constantly growing ...
80% isn't renewable right now. And you didn't answer why that should matter to sunrise/sunset?
Also why do you downvote all posts? Are my replies off topic?
Bad faith arguments are off-topic, yes.
What is in bad faith? I hold the premise that nothing has specifically changed that would make people actually like the sunrise/sunset time change given it was tried before.
You claimed "technology" without giving specific reasons. You claimed renewable energy despite it only being 20% of today's energy generation.
You are the one who is making bad faith arguments. Then you are getting mad because you have nothing to support your opinion.
This isn't reddit.