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Amazon exec says it’s time for workers to ‘disagree and commit’ to office return — “I don’t have data to back it up, but I know it’s better.”::“We’re here, we’re back. It’s working,” an Amazon Studios head said in a meeting, before acknowledging a lack of evidence.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

People don't want to because WFH is much better for employees. Why waste time on commute, gas, and get out from the comfort of your home?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

RTO is only "better" for the owning class.

RTO makes it harder to micromanage > employees realise they can self-organise > employees form unions and demand "better" employment contracts

Also the money saved by not commuting has allowed (some) office workers to save up for emergency funds, which comes in handy when it is time for a strike.

RTO = preventative union busting

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

every time my boss threatened RTO I got a new job with a raise. My current company pays me twice what I was making the first time someone tried to force me back into the office, and they don't have an office. They have a PO box for what little physical mail they get, and that's it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Shut the fuck up, these people need to hear that when this comes out of their mouths. Shut the fuck up, we are struggling and you are not.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It is surprising that they just came out and admitted there is no evidence to back up what they are doing.

Bosses need to fuck right off with their war against remote work.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Straight up fundamentalist religious thinking right there.

"There isn't any reason for you to believe what I'm saying, but just believe it anyways."

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Amazon doesn't have data? I say bullshit!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Mike Hopkins, senior vice president of Prime Video and Amazon Studios, reportedly told members in an internal meeting that when it comes to returning to the office, “it’s time to disagree and commit.

Nonetheless, Hopkins added, a return to the office is important because it’s the personal belief of CEO Andy Jassy and other top brass that “we just do our best work when we’re together.”

This time last year, Jassy said Amazon had no plans for a compulsory office return and instead intended to “proceed adaptively.” That sentiment didn’t last, and Jassy soon joined peers Elon Musk and Sundar Pichai in their pro-office enthusiasm, mandating an office return earlier this year (the company does have an exception request process that’s considered on a case-by-case basis).

But Annie Dean, VP of Team Anywhere at Atlassian and Meta’s former director of remote work, told Fortune the whole idea is a misnomer.

Any bosses expecting office presence by itself (rather than a full cultural overhaul) to solve existing problems of productivity, innovation, or creativity will be sorely disappointed.

Opportunities for mentorship, communication, and learning by osmosis are difficult to replicate over Zoom, particularly for early-career workers or recent hires, a wide swath of research has found.


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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I feel it in me booones! And my right tibia is always right.

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