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[–] [email protected] 90 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

These micro-examples are a reminder that corruption is a part of every human system, no matter how perfect the design.

There will always be concertgoers cutting the unwatched fence to sneak in for free.

The only plausible solution is elective transparency. Either your company and financial metadata are available for independent third party review, and records retained as defined, or else you’re not a company.

Don’t ascribe to it, get boycotted.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What flavor are the smaller companies?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He already said apple flavoring.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

No, he said Google and Microsoft had the apple flavoring, as opposed to a smaller company.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ice cubes is on the Apple Store though… or is this something that happened in the past and has since been changed?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Isn't Netflix exempt from these fees too? Or do they just not allow you to sign up in app and redirect to a browser?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Disgusting. So glad I don't use either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Google fought to keep the Spotify numbers private during its antitrust fight with Epic, saying they could damage negotiations with other app developers who might want more generous rates.

And in court, Google has focused on benefits like greater flexibility rather than cost savings.

As part of the deal, both parties also agreed to commit $50 million apiece to a “success fund.”

“A small number of developers that invest more directly in Android and Play may have different service fees as part of a broader partnership that includes substantial financial investments and product integrations across different form factors,” says spokesperson Dan Jackson.

In mid-2023, it completely dropped support for Apple’s App Store billing system to avoid paying up to a 30 percent commission, and it was one of the highest-profile early members of the Coalition for App Fairness, a group that included Epic and supported the Fortnite publisher’s antitrust suit against Apple and Google.

But while Epic has continued its legal battle against both parties, Spotify apparently found an easier — and far cheaper — way out of the Google fight.


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