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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I bet a cookie that this will be used to kill apps like NewPipe and Revanced.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep.

I've already seen it try to disable sideloaded apps. Was yet one more motivator to go to a de-googled device (specifically DivestOS). I can't do Graphene with my current device, but my next phone will be a Pixel 5.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. Pixel 8 just launched. If you want a cheaper phone go for the 7s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Google offered $150 for my nearly new 7, I'm sure there will be quite a few on the used market.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably because of ROM support

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That and the form factor, feature set, weight, brightness l, fingerprint sensor, weight, materials.

I'd prefer a 4 since it's plastic, but the 5 is almost exactly same size and weight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why a Pixel 5? It's end of life already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Currently using an Essential Ph1. Paid $100 for it. Runs fast. Faster than my friends newer phones.

I see no reason to pay hundreds of dollars for a phone. I'd rather pay $130 for a good condition Pixel 5 that has the features I want, and I can afford to keep a testing phone around or use it as a hot spare, and still pay less than a "new" phone.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Or more an excuse to monitor and read app data

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Or things like AdGuard.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I have sideloaded apps where the malicious code has been removed (e.g. a Spotify client without ads). I bet this is an attempt to block them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But... they could've already done that with current tools? Not like these change the package ID often.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They could, but I think that would be too obvious. Why such system they could flag it at OS level with a big, scary warning and claim it was for security sake.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maliciously sideloaded? means the freedom users enjoy by not installing spyware-like application. Nowadays Security terms doesnt mean its for the users, that narrative is always with them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Maliciously sideloaded doesn't mean all apps that were sideloaded are malicious, it refers to those that were sideloaded and are malicious, like the recent WhatsApp modded apps that have a Trojan, or apps installed via usb debugger exploits

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only Google Play Protect, which is part of the Google Services. Good, i don't have that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


This consists of a code analysis that will “extract important signals from the app and send them to the Play Protect backend infrastructure for a code-level evaluation.”

Sideloading remains a popular feature for Android users, even if it means having to trust that the app they are installing is not malicious.

One of the key reasons for Google to introduce its enhanced real-time code-level scanning feature is to counter the proliferation of predatory loan apps.

We began the testing on the Pixel 7a by trying to install various spyware apps that have rebranded or been cloned, or otherwise had code changes that would attempt to evade detection.

Commercial surveillance apps, like stalkerware or spouseware, are typically surreptitiously installed by someone with physical access to a person’s phone, often a spouse or domestic partner.

“These capabilities will continue to evolve and improve over time, as Google Play Protect collects and analyzes new types of threats facing the Android ecosystem.”


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