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[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This is also why I stopped prepaying for things. Sure I’m spending $50 more a year but at least I have flexibility.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Agency... people need to be more mindful when they are giving it up. It leads to bad places unless you know what you are doing.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

This is absolutely disgusting behavior. "Cannot honor the purchases," my ass.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like "the new middle ages" really was a correct description of our time. Well, we're at the dawn of it. All our universal rights and universal truths are going to be subject to who's holding the dagger at your throat, and we'll have theocracies, family republics and feudal lords again. The blooming diversity of hell.

OK, this is a bit offtopic, just one can see such behavior in all areas today where they wouldn't be normal 30 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

I propose "the new dark ages" might be more appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

To be fair to the new owners the previous ones never mentioned the lifetime subscriptions existed and they were sinking the company. Probably the reason the original owners sold in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It was obviously a cash grab from the company before fucking off, you can't reasonably expect a lifetime vpn for 30 bucks. Either it eventually gets repriced, or they start mining all your information like every other "free" vpns.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 20 hours ago

Yeah this looks to me like everyone got scammed, including the new owners.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago

Yet that was exactly what they sold, this is not too blame in the customer. They built a subscriber base on those purchases which is capital to them.

They need to uphold the contract that they entered in to.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 19 hours ago

Due diligence what...?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They also said that they were cancelling lifetime contracts that hadn't been used in 6 months. Hard to see how those could be sinking the company.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago

Correct.

This is just bullshit being said so the owners can make more money.

Every single person you see who believes it and perpetuates it is a useful idiot.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

I assume most companies write somewhere in their terms that "lifetime" means effectively "whenever the fuck we want".

If there is a company that uses the word lifetime properly they may be worth a mention.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

That shouldn’t matter

If we had the most basic of regulatory practices over businesses in this country, especially the tech industry, this practice simply wouldn’t be allowed. Even the bullshit doublespeak “life of the product” version

Lifetime means lifetime. If you can’t honor that don’t offer it. If you go back on it you should be harshly penalized.

Looking at you t mobile, rolling stone magazine, filmora, Dropbox, salesforce, mcafee, etc

This should also include if you remove features from lifetime subscriptions and make them contingent on paid monthly subscriptions (looking at you adobe, Evernote, and probably plex in 3-5 years)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I've read that laws of most countries have become orders of magnitude more complex since the time when ESG wrote his Perry Mason books.

One could also think that all of the laws functioning in a country at one moment being possible to grasp for one person in a week are a requirement for Heinlein and Asimov's visions of good future too.

Often touching upon the fundamental aspects like this one - a company sells not what it advertises, but it has somewhere in agreement a line that says otherwise.

While we have enormous amount and volume of active laws that don't change any fundamental aspects, but function as a minefield for an honest person trying to navigate reality.

A combinatorial explosion if you will.

When the legal apparatus as a whole stops functioning as law and becomes yet another power in the society. In some sense having law is a disturbance, and laws becoming so complex that they are not laws again, but something like medieval privileges, with complex interpretations depending on each side's power, and sometimes inevitable contradictions, just means that the system of society has responded to that disturbance.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

In the fine print, "lifetime" is defined as the lifetime of a particular mayfly that has not been all that well-treated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They often tie it to current offerings. So your plan may have unlimited 4G data for life, but won't include anything faster/newer. So once you want/need 5G, you have to switch to a different plan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

And even then it's dependent on the availability of the 4G network or whatever. They're currently sunsetting 2G and 3G networks, that means a lot of old school devices have to be upgraded or cut off, upgrades come with new contracts.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I have bought a lifetime VPN for 15$ in 2018 or 19, still kicking :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

but now they charge 200 usd for it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

vpnunlimited

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