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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean honestly this AI era is the time for these absurd anti-piracy penalties to be enforced. Meta downloads libgen? $250,000 per book plus jail time to the person who's responsible.

Oh but laws aren't for the rich and powerful you see!

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago

Normal people pirate: one hundred bazillion dollars fine for download The Hangover.

One hundred bazillion dollars company pirate: special law to say it okay because poor company no can exist without pirate 😞

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 days ago (11 children)

If AI companies can pirate, so can individuals.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You know I am somewhat of a large language model myself.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

At this rate we will get access to more rights if we can figure out a way to legally classify ourselves as AI.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 days ago (4 children)

hello yes I'm an ai company. let me torrent all the things pls thank you

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (3 children)

That's exactly what Meta did, they torrented the full libgen database of books.

If they can do it, anybody should be able to do it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (9 children)

I like how their whole excuse to that was "WE DIDN'T SEED ANY OF IT BACK THOUGH" which arguably makes it even worse lol.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (35 children)

What is the actual justification for this? Everyone has to pay for this except for AI companies, so AI can continue to develop into a universally regarded negative?

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[–] [email protected] 182 points 5 days ago (49 children)

In theory, could you then just register as an AI company and pirate anything?

[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well no, just the largest ones who can pay some fine or have nearly endless legal funds to discourage challenges to their practice, this bring a form of a pretend business moat. The average company won't be able to and will get shredded.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What fine? I thought this new law allows it. Or is it one of those instances where training your AI on copyrighted material and distributing it is fine but actually sourcing it isnβ€˜t so you canβ€˜t legally create a model but also nobody can do anything if you have and use it? That sounds legally very messy.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm naming my torrent client "AI" and now I have the right to download a car.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

But downloading and illegally using that font is okay?

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It’s like the goal is to bleed culture from humanity. Corporate is so keep on the $$$ they’re willing to sacrifice culture to it.

I’ll bet corporate gets to keep their copyrights.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Absolute fastest way to kill this shit? Feed the entire Disney catalog in and start producing knockoff Disney movies. Disney would kill this so fast.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Can the rest of us please use copyrighted material without permission?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean they were trained on copyrighted material and nothing has been done about that so...

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 days ago (24 children)

So abolish copyright law entirely instead of only allowing theft when capitalists do it.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

On the other hand copyright laws have been extended to insane time lengths. Sorry but your grandkids shouldn't profit off of you.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago

It only seems to make a difference when the rich ones complain.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (3 children)

should start up our own ai company anyone is free to join

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (7 children)

So did this UK "centre-left" party turn out to be a Trojan horse or what? They've dismantled trans rights. They plan on using AI thought police to 'predict' future crimes and criminals. And now they want multibillion corporations to have free access to anyone's work without compensation.

If I hadn't looked this political party up on Wikipedia, by this point I would be assuming that they're a bunch of conservative wankers on Elon Musk's payroll.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Is anyone calling UK Labour centre-left? I would have thought theyd be sitting just inside the lower right quadrant of the political compass, they might have been centre left when Corbyn was the leader but that was a while ago and Starmer isn't that kinda guy.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How funny this is gonna get when AI copyrights Nintendo stuff. Ah man I got my popcorn ready.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (6 children)

But you, casual BitTorrent, eDonkey (I like good old things) and such user, can't.

It's literally a law allowing people doing some business violate a right of others, or, looking at that from another side, making only people not working for some companies subject to a law ...

What I mean - at some point in my stupid life I thought only individuals should ever be subjects of law. Where now the sides are the government and some individual, a representative (or a chain of people making decisions) of the government should be a side, not its entirety.

For everything happening a specific person, easy to determine, should be legally responsible. Or a group of people (say, a chain from top to this specific one in a hierarchy).

Because otherwise this happens, the differentiation between a person and a business and so on allows other differentiation kinds, and also a person having fewer rights than a business or some other organization. And it will always drift in that direction, because a group is stronger than an individual.

And in this specific case somebody would be able to sue the prime minister.

OK, it's an utopia, similar to anarcho-capitalism, just in a different dimension, in that of responsibility.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh good I see Labour are dealing with the real issues in society.

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