Technology

How long before Respondus introduces an education equivalent of BattlEye or other kernel-level anticheats as a result of stuff like this?

And I don't mean the Lockdown browser, I mean something beyond that, so as to block local AI Implementations in addition to web-based ones.

Also, I'm pretty sure there's still plenty of fields that are more hands-on and either really hard or impossible to AI-cheat your way through. For example, if you're going for carpentry at the local vo-tech, good luck AI-cheating your way through that when that's a very hands-on subject by its nature.

Computer science is going to be q commodity job. Prediction of three tiers:

• Tier 1: No education requirement. I write code and build things. Large percentage of developers.
• Tier 3: Science based, high education working on algorithms, physics, and other elements requiring an understanding of matters in deeper education
• Tier 2: Right in between 1 and 3, may require formal education, but definitely experience. Will understand applications of high science, and can both program well and manage teams. Will replace current nontechnical middle management, because who needs that when the market is flooded

We've been headed this way for years, AI is just speeding it up.

Cheating themselves out of education.

I mean college is cheating them out of 200k plus of money so do you blame them?

It’s almost as if college isn’t about bettering yourself but paying a racket so you can check off a mandatory box on your resume for the pleasure of your corporate liege-lords…

make education stupider and less important, put AI assistants in front of everyone, automate as much as possible, and allow the proletariat class to enjoy decreasing levels of control over society

When I look at the quality of prominent Americans who went to ivy league schools, I don't think cheating your way through college will make much difference.

Pete hegseth graduated from princeton without the use of AI and he is one dumb fucking cunt, for example

While other new students fretted over the university’s rigorous core curriculum, described by the school as “intellectually expansive” and “personally transformative,” Lee used AI to breeze through with minimal effort.

Lee goes on to claim everyone cheats. (He's also that AI Amazon Leetcode interview person.)

Lee said he doesn’t know a single student at the school who isn’t using AI to cheat.

Well duh, what other kind of people would he know.

Papers are being disrupted. Exams will become more relevant. Can't use AI with only a pencil and paper

I feel like one of the more important things to take away from this is the wildly different degrees to which various students use ai. Yes, 90% may use it, but there is a huge difference between "check following paper for grammar errors: ..." and "write me a paper on the ethics of generative AI," though an argument could be made that both are cheating. But there are things like "explain Taylor series to me in an intuitive way." Like someone else here pointed out, a 1-2 minute conversation would be a very easy way for professors to find people who cheated. There seems to be a more common view (I see it a LOT on Lemmy) that all AI is completely evil and anything with a neural network is made by Satan. Nuance exists.

Always have been, as I've seen during my UCLA days of people buying exam answers from previous weekends and paying for papers, etc.. I'm glad I never bothered, mostly because of dignity but what because I was poor (although those correlate). Rich people have plenty of ways to game the system, though.

College courses have long been structured to incentivize rote memorization and regurgitation over actual critical thinking and understanding. When i was in college the "honors" students literally had filling cabinets with a decade of old tests for every class in their dormatory. I'll admit llms have probably made it even worse, but the slide of colleges into worthless degree mills has been inexorably progressing for like 40 years at this point.

Why are you borrowing like $3,000 a credit hour to use ChatGPT? Take some fucking humanities courses so you don’t grow up to be like Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk challenging each other to an MMA match. This might be your last chance in life to be surrounded by experts and hot people having discussions.

Being able to use software everyone uses isn’t a marketable skill. Learn some shit. You’re an adult now.

I seen students put no work into changing the output text from chatgpt. Like, not even trying to hide it. Shm.

I caught my middle schooler googling her math homework problems. I can hardly blame her, I just completed a work training on Measles the same way. I told her I understand the urge, but you have to put in the work in order to earn taking the easy way out because otherwise you won't know when the machines are lying to you. So anyway yeah we're fucked.

Lee said he doesn’t know a single student at the school who isn’t using AI to cheat.

How far do you have to be into the AI shit bubble to think everyone is cheating with AI? Some people are always going to cheat, but that's been true since long before AI tools existed. Most people have some level of integrity and desire to actually learn from the classes they're paying thousands to attend.

it really shows too because hiring people sucks these days nobody knows anything