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Fuck the stupid morons who defend Apple.

Imagine if Microsoft banned Windows users from installing the software they want on their computer.

Imagine if Microsoft required all software developers to give them 30% of their earning or Microsoft will ban them from Windows

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Imagine if Microsoft required all software developers to give them 30% of their earning

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/publish/publish-your-app/why-distribute-through-store

Flexible revenue sharing options that let developers choose their own commerce platform and keep 100% of the revenue for non-gaming apps, or use Microsoft’s commerce platform and pay a competitive fee of 15% for apps and 12% for games.

I guess their rates are lower. Currently.

EDIT: And as @[email protected] points out, that's for Windows, not the XBox. For the XBox, they do run an exclusive store and apparently do 30% there as well.

continues using Linux

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Big difference here is that Windows doesn't REQUIRE developers to use the windows store or still pay them money if they use other methods of payment. Anyone can download an installer and install software without the Windows store and Microsoft doesn't make developers pay them still to do that.

Now if they could get away with it they absolutely would like on Xbox. That's why Valve put so much effort into Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

$568m is a day Apple will never get back!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

They better start fining in Billions

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Microsoft does with their Xbox, though. Don’t they?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes but I don’t believe consoles are a target of the DMA or this investigation. While would be nice if consoles were opened up and forced to allow side loading and alternative stores, I think there’s an argument that they’re single purpose appliances - a PlayStation is sold to you with the intention of it being a gaming box and not much else.

A smartphone or tablet though is at this point a general purpose computer, and it’s reasonable to expect to have the same freedoms and open environment that you would on a PC. And Apple’s argument that they can’t open up the iPhone because security or whatever doesn’t really hold water, because the Mac exists and is both secure and open.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The original argument compares windows to iOS, but gets weaker when comparing windows to macOS, which is still pretty corralled, but more or less open.

I asked about Xbox because Microsoft doesn’t sell a phone, and Xbox is an example of a Microsoft-run closed ecosystem. So I was curious about how their closed ecosystems compared.

If Microsoft sold a phone, I wonder if it would actually be more open like windows and Mac, or closed like their own XBox and the iPhone.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Microsoft is actually the least problematic of the console racket (Sony, Nintendo and MS), games release simultaneously to pc and they offer cross compatibility. Maybe the EU will address it eventually, but i guess mobile takes precedent given that everyone has a cell phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

“reeeeeee”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Tim Apple to Trump

You know what to do, papito....

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