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Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There can be many reasons reddit sucks, but I'd argue its mostly because Spez is a mega douche and Reddit was captured by mods who had agendas and just silenced anyone who disagreed. Or they were paid to do it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think the only way to really fix this is to make votes a limited asset that accounts have. There are forums where this has worked okay: bodybuilding.com forums has a reputation system where accounts are limited in what they can give to other voters.

As long as “karma” is unlimited it suffers from the same problems whether you count it in aggregate or not. As some other commenters have said, people still seek validation in individual comments. I know because I do too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh my sweet summer child,!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Can't say I ever cared about karma. Lemmy reminds me of stripped down original reddit. Almost original. I remember when Reddit didn't even have thumbnails. Back then, there was a thing called memepool. You didn't know what you were going to get when you clicked on links on either site. There was a lot of fun unpredictable content and Reddit still meant you read it and we're vouching for it. It was like this whole world of quality stuff from really smart people. Thumbnails and subreddits ushered in a series of trashings and lead to intense divisiveness reddit never recovered from. . .

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

That’s right! I said good shit in tech posts that was worth upvoting so others can see. Then there was an bad comment I wrote in patientgaming that deserved the downvotes and not worth reading.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Just don’t be a woman on Lemmy.

Sure, most people won’t downvote or harass you just for being a woman (a lot will.. we didn’t get the best of Reddit at all, and I doubt the new adoptees are any better…) but they will often enough make things difficult even if they aren’t actively causing problems.

But men of Lemmy (aka the vast majority of the user base since they ran off all the womenfolk) don’t care. They see that as quality control or some dumb shit, because THEY aren’t interested in woman things, so nobody should be, or they think their “as a man” comments should be important or some shit... Whatever the post is about. If it doesn’t cater to them, it can fuck right off.

Which is why cis women make up <10% of the Lemmy side of the fediverse. It’s a disaster for women here.

But I wonder how long you’ve been here. Most of the posts of this nature are from very new accounts and they don’t know the problems yet…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The downvotes prove your point. This topic needs more discussion, but most of the times when women bring this up, their comments get downvoted to hell. It's quite a "gotcha" for someone to ask to see "examples" when most of the examples we've come across or created will be buried or have since been deleted.

Alternative question - for those that don't believe this is an issue, when is the last time you came across a post on Lemmy that is specifically for/about women or women's issues (especially one posted from a woman's perspective)? Or even better, go ahead and make such a post. Watch how fast the downvotes come.

I expect this comment to be downvoted the same way as the parent comment was, the same way that past posts I've made and read about women's issues have been downvoted on Lemmy. If men want this place to be inclusive for women, they have to do their part to support us - not downvoting our concerns, simply because they don't experience the same issues, is the absolute bare minimum. Otherwise, why would we keep posting/commenting about our issues when doing so invites a downvote cascade?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

when is the last time you came across a post on Lemmy that is specifically for/about women or women’s issues

The same amount of time I came across a post that is about men's issues. A really long time. The vast majority of comments should not be about identity politics, unless it is a feature of the specific community.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

"Which is why cis women make up <10% of the Lemmy side of the fediverse. It’s a disaster for women here."

I mean I can believe that since it's based off of Reddit but do you have a source for that?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

We have that here too. FlyingSquid comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

I have a question though:

On Reddit the same post won't usually show up twice in my feed (unless it's a repost). So once you've seen it, Reddit notices that and kind of marks it as seen I guess.

Using Lemmy however I happen to see the same posts over and over again for days. Is there any way to fix this?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Then why are there so many beans and jeans on my front page?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Just Value Content

Literally right there in the title.

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