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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.

I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.

That said, if Tesla and other brands were equally weighted in my purchase decision, I’d then happily rule Tesla out based on merit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Are either Ford or Mercedes currently run by Nazis? Can the average person on the street name the CEO of either of them?

The problem with Tesla is that everyone hates the guy who has made himself the face of the company at a time when there are plenty of alternatives.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

German cars come from Carl Benz, who built the first automobile in 1885, four years before Hitlers birth.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm happy with my stereo being a glorified Bluetooth speaker

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well VW is still around. Maybe Teslas will be classic cars in 80 years.

/s: They will all self immolate.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Musk chased right-wing approval, but the only thing he got was declining sales and a dying brand.

I mean he got tens of billions of dollars in increased wealth so I dunno if I'd say that.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

8% drop in car sales isn't great but I think the article is overselling the idea that the company is straight up dying. (Sadly) Most people just don't make a connection between how they spend their money and the politics of the people they prop up.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Tesla is definitely dying unless they can turn this around quickly.
Surplus capacity is expensive, and I bet they are already operating at a loss. And turning around a bad reputation is hard.
Their models are dated, the cheap Tesla is cancelled, the Cybertruck is a catastrophic fiasco, and the model Y has already lost a lot of popularity, so even a new mode already said to be mostly a facelift, is unlikely to make a huge difference.
The drop in sales in January in EU is 50%, and they are losing market share in China and USA too. So I think the actual drop is higher now than 8%.
Note that for Nissan a 5% drop last year was called catastrophic!! And their survival is also questioned, and they are way bigger than Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To your list add that new Tesla sales are also competing against an increasing number of Tesla owners who now want to divest themselves of the brand.

More used Teslas on the market will only push down the market rates and thus profits of new Teslas even further.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s close to 50% drop in Europe. The EU has 500 million people. They may not know it yet but Tesla is on hospice care.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I just want to stop seeing a storm of them when I am on a road. I can’t seem to drive anywhere without seeing approximately 10 within a single hour.

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