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[–] [email protected] 95 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Anyone who thinks this was about getting AI working was the idiot from the start, there still isn’t even a real use-case for it. This was always about funneling huge amounts of money from the government budget to a bunch of rich assholes. The outcome doesn’t matter at all here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

there still isn’t even a real use-case for it

There are several real use cases for it, it's just that they're worth like ten bucks a month to me all together and OpenAI is running at a loss while charging... *checks notes* 200 dollars per month for their top tier model?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Venture capitalists using the US gov as their new marketing platform is a joke in it self.

What's next? Is the next White House briefing gonna be in a stadium, with laser show, motivational music and some ponce going on stage to hype people up?

Griftonomics has reached the upper levels, y'all.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

Exactly. Just look at Intel and the CHIPS Act.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why is there no real use-case for it? But what about disinformation?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

And making starving artists’ lives even more unlivable. And taking human creativity and joy from humans.

While destroying the environment. It’s so efficient.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

So, basically the military industrial complex (which liberals support!) but with less genocide? Don't get me wrong, I hate Trump and Republicans are clearly the greater evil, but liberals have helped conservatives funnel trillion of dollars in public assets to the 1% for decades. It was under Bill Clinton that the internet, which was publically funded and publicly built, was given to the 1%. So to me, this is just more of the same: capitalist politicians stealing from us to make the 1% wealthier.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

How was the Internet given to the 1% under Clinton? And people gave it to the tech companies. Internet was supposed to be a bunch of independent sites. But it is easier to just go to a few.

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[–] [email protected] 167 points 5 days ago (2 children)

most of that 'hundreds of billions' isn't going to go towards the tech or infrastructure, it's gonna go to people. a very small number of specific individuals.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago (7 children)

correct, US taxpayer is being fleeced so some parasites can live their best lives.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Incorrect. They can already do that without more money.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

correct.

hell, i could live my 'best' life off of musk's 'sofa cushion' money:

$2.5m is more than enough for me to live on just using investment proceeds--in perpetuity.

$2.5m to him (with ~ $436b) is the equivalent of fifty-seven cents to someone with $100k (in the bank, investments, retirement, home equity, etc). now, i don't have $100k, not even close. just using it as an example here. my equivalent would be more like half a cent.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

They're mentally ill IMO. Like that old person hoarding vacuum cleaners, diapers, dogfood, etc.

The most infuriating thing is that for them it's just a number, for society it stifles innovation and wellbeing.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Well, I suspect that most of the money will be used to acquire or costume natural resources, like water and power.

Individuals become enriched because their share holdings are worth more.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Deepseek api is down today - probably a result of their viral success recently..

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It is beautiful how the US is never short on cash for state aid to enrich some owners.

But god forbid plebs ask for a good train, that's communism!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Socialism for giant corporations: 😎🦅🇺🇸

Socialism for common people: 😡🚫🤷‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Explain how good trains will help our precious CEOs?

Unless you mean a private train line paid with government funds. Now we're talking!

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Necessity is the mother of invention."

What you're likely seeing here is innovation similar to the early tech sector. The hardware limitation (no Nvidia chips) means different (usually more complex) solutions are needed.

These solutions usually require a deep understanding of a specific area of mathematics, and expertise in coding. The person making it normally has to be heavily invested, since it still eats a lot of hours.

I often joke, the mathematician who finds a faster algorithm for matrix operations is sitting on a billion dollar idea.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And that mathematician won't see the profits for that faster algorithm and you will never hear their name - shits been happening in tech for decades

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

As a mathematician who has worked in tech, this I am very much aware of XD

[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Guys listen up, every deepseek model comes with a dedicated chinese spy, who will log all your data and send it back to CCP who will use it to plot the destruction of the western civilization.

Instead we should use Freedom© models from OpenAI (side note if deepseek is so "open" how come they don't have open in their name huh?) even if OpenAI don't show their reasoning, they only do this cuz they want to protect us and they stand for our values.

They cost 100x more only because they are fighting for our Freedom and Freedom doesn't come cheap, Freedom doesn't have a price, Freedom requires our sacrifice.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

use it to plot the destruction of the western civilization

Peaks around at the state of Western Civilization

Boots up another copy of DeepSeek

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

First paragraph is something I believe some people will say unironically.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah obviously we've completely lost the plot a long time ago. Nobody even remembers when tech was bands of ragtag nerds making something out of nothing. Now they are the rich whose only purpose to is extract more wealth. Tech what? Who even knows anymore.

That includes the average tech workers. If that angers you then you're lost too.

Nobody has noticed that there's more bragging about compensation than accomplishments. It used to be the other way around. Nerds eagerly showing off to anyone who will listen about whatever thing they cooked up. It's been this way for the past long time long before this LLM AI era.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, give me a /technology/ sub that speaks about technology (have you heard about the esp-8266? Did you know a A4988 can steer a NEMA from a Raspberry pi? And even The 6 gen SSD can move X GB/s, what is the fastest quad core under 100$?) and not about funding and drama.

Or am I out of touch with reality :-) ?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Shameless self promotion:

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We of course focus on hardware and do include tech-adjacent business/public policy news, but we do cover ESP8266, PCI-E 6 development and that recently released ~$100 AMD CPU.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

It's because this wave of tech overlords rode in on the coattails of the actual smart group. No one in this new group has actual built/coded/designed anything good. Everything they actual get involved with is garbage. Musk Cyber truck and Zuck metaverse as two examples. Bezos isn't even the CEO of Amazon anymore, and he had pretty much be letting Andy Jassy run AWS/Amazon for close to 2 decades anyway.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The US is getting owned by China left and right, but sure lets focus on abusing minorities, women, LGBTQ+, and the poor instead of investing on actually making America great. Whatever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored [gay, trans, Hispanic, etc ] man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

Maybe they try to imitate china on those topics?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Of course it's faster & cheaper when it's being censored & can't access half of human history because the fucking ccp finds it offensive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As opposed to reddit censoring Israel genociding Palestine and Luigi ?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

The model itself is probably not censored. The censorship comes on top. Preliminary tests already show how this can be circumvented.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Again, this is all fucking stupid. China is giving this shit away for free to absolutely own the US for spending money on stupid fucking things like this.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Its good for the consumer. If companies like deepseek weren't just tossing them out there for anyone to use, Microsoft and Google would currently have a monopoly and it would all be subscription type services.

It also greatly reduces whatever chance the copyright shills have of legislating against it.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Late stage capitalism has now created mega corporations that no longer profit off their innovation and quality, but merely off manipulation and exploitation of their mind-boggling amounts of capital. They now must crush all competition using authoritarian means because competition is now their biggest weakness.

Capitalism is well and truely dead, and corporations and conservatives are the ones who killed it. They want to remove the ladder of success that got them there.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Capitalism has never been healthier. This IS Capitalism, not an anomaly.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

We're Fiscally RESPOSIBLE!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

well I mean the USA's president is a scammer so I am not surprised he is involved in stuff where scammers are abundant nowadays like crypto and AI

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (8 children)

The Chinese model has chain of thought that u can see. The model when asked to talk about chinas atrocities will go through a chain of though process outlining all the atrocities then conclude its not allowed to tell u. Cool technology tho I'm just waiting for a dolphin fine tuning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah all the info is there and something switches it over to the generic response.

So fucked.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

There's also notable vitality in FOSS big data tools from China (Apache Doris, Kylin, Kyuubi etc.) that reminds of Hadoop in the USA 15 years ago while the USA data engineering now mostly turned to closed source cloud solutions.

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