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[–] [email protected] 162 points 1 week ago (16 children)

We really need someone other than Qualcomm & Apple to come up with lossless Bluetooth audio codecs.

TBF the whole Bluetooth audio situation is a complete mess

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Opus! It's a merge of a codec designed for speech (from Skype!) with one designed for high quality audio by Xiph (same people who made OGG/Vorbis).

Although it needs some more work on latency, it prefers to work on bigger frames but default than Bluetooth packets likes, but I've seen there's work on standardizing a version that fits Bluetooth. Google even has it implemented now on Pixel devices.

Fully free codec!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Correct. Qualcomm makes aptX

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Wait, did Apple implement its own codec? I thought even the Airpods Max used AAC, which is lossy.

As for Qualcomm, only aptX Lossless is lossless and I'm not aware of many products supporting it (most supports aptX HD at most)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, the problem (imo) isn't lossy v lossless. It's that the supported codecs are part of the Bluetooth standard and they were developed in like the 90s.

There are far better codecs out there and we can't use them without incompatible extensions on Bluetooth.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There's a push for Opus now, it's the perfect codec for Bluetooth because it's a singular codec that fits the whole spectrum from low bandwidth speech to high quality audio, and it's fully free

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Ah, misleading use of terminology that indicates one thing, but will win in court even if it actually means, or can later be said to mean, another.

I hope those involved in helping companies win these lawsuits choke on bones from food sold as boneless. Because that won a court case after "boneless" was redefined as a cooking method.

I don't want them to choke to death. Just a little lesson, you know?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I vote they choke indefinitely. But not to death; I want them to die of old age, spending decade upon decade choking endlessly.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I work in pro AV and so many companies do this. Wow, you say LOSSLESS video on a valens chip? Oh, you've never actually done a side-by-side conparison, have you..

Extron differentiates between lossless and "visually lossless" which I appreciate.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Of course it's Ohio!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

"On 17 September 2019, the Japan Audio Society (JAS) certified LDAC with their Hi-Res Audio Wireless certification."

Something something oxymoron. Bluetooth is trash, its why I still use wired whenever I can.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

To my knowledge it's lossless in CD quality only, in high-res modes it becomes lossy

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