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The Turing Test, enshrined by the public and media as THE test of machine intelligence, really isn't. (www.thenewatlantis.com)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Computer pioneer Alan Turing's remarks in 1950 on the question, "Can machines think?" were misquoted, misinterpreted and morphed into the so-called "Turing Test". The modern version says if you can't tell the difference between communicating with a machine and a human, the machine is intelligent. What Turing actually said was that by the year 2000 people would be using words like "thinking" and "intelligent" to describe computers, because interacting with them would be so similar to interacting with people. Computer scientists do not sit down and say alrighty, let's put this new software to the Turing Test - by Grabthar's Hammer, it passed! We've achieved Artificial Intelligence!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well back when computers were being developed/ improved there was a pretty strong commitment throughout the Western nations to advancing and expanding education for everyone.

In that paradigm, people would become more educated and better at critical thinking at a steady pace, probably on par with the rate at which computer programs advanced in their capacity to mimic human behavior.

So, "can it fool more people into believing it's a human" would've been a great test of whether the program was super advanced.

Instead we've had 50 years of attacks on public education by Republicans that has been tolerated - or at least not fought hard enough - by Democrats. So not particularly advanced programs can fool a great many people. That does make the Turing Test moot, I think.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

It's on par with a thought experiment. The notion is still one worth considering, even if it is impractical or unsuitable to create a literal test based on it.

[+] [email protected] -12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

oh come on

people are in denial that their way of life - getting paid for intellectual output - is coming to an end. it's not the case that AI just produces slop. surely it does but so do a lot of humans. you know all the memes about human workers having imposter syndrome - feeling as if they don't even really know what they're doing? AI only has to produce higher quality output than them. and it definitely can.

the reason why people shit on AI so hard is because they're afraid - afraid that AI will "out-compete" them. in that sense, you could also call it "jealous", like a woman fears she's replaced by another woman.

people need to respect themselves and others enough to agree to survive - and thrive, even - in the absence of a productive output. in other words, only if you can allow your fellow humans a living income without work, you are truly in a position where you can live comfortably in the future.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

No idea why this is getting downvoted. You can argue over the exact practicality of the current iteration of AI, but this is a proven good take on automation generally speaking

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