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[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My Jellyfin just quivered…

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ve been looking to buy a couple 24TB drives. Hopefully, this pushes their price down.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Peertube instance owners rejoice!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Or just people who download porn.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Who doesn't have multiple TB of videos just laying around?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wish there were TBs of porn of what I was into.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

If porn was just created on demand instead of filling millions of hdd's, would anyone notice or care? Finally a use for generative AI.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I prefer 1980s porn jpgs around 90kB each thankyouverymuch.

It's crazy sizes though uf you think about it, I have like 2 or 4 TB drives and they are far from full.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

When will it be commercially available though? Supposedly Seagate has had 30TB drives out for the better part of a year, but I can't find anything larger than 24TB actually available for purchase.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I've been waiting for a 32TB to become available as well, Seagate announced that drive last year and it's still not available outside data centers. I suspect the WD one will be the same.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'd guess that they're commercially available but only for hyperscalers - large companies like Google, Amazon (AWS), etc that need a huge amount of storage.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Obligatory hint that SMR isn't suited for RAID systems.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

A better way to word it is: SMR is only suited for archival usage. Large writes, little-to-no random writes.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Tape on a platter, basically.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wonder what happens if you throw them in an unraid BTRFS/jbod configuration with a CMR parity drive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Slowdown and data corruption?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Assuming that these have fairly impressive 100 MB/s sustained write speed, then it's going to take about 93 hours to write the whole contents of the disk - basically four days. That's a long time to replace a failed drive in a RAID array; you'd need to consider multiple disks of redundancy just in case another one fails while you're resilvering the first.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

This is one of the reasons I use unRAID with two parity disks. If one fails, I'll still have access to my data while I rebuild the data on the replacement drive.

Although, parity checks with these would take forever, of course..

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a pretty common failure scenario in SANs. If you buy a bunch of drives, they're almost guaranteed to come from the same batch, meaning they're likely to fail around the same time. The extra load of a rebuild can kill drives that are already close to failure.

Which is why SANs have hot spares that can be allocated instantly on failure. And you should use a RAID level with enough redundancy to meet your reliability needs. And RAID is not backup, you should have backups too.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

If you eyeballing these, please remind that these babies tend to be LOUD AS FUCK, so might not be suitable for home server use.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Are they any louder than any HDD from the last 30 years?

If so, im actually curious why that is

Edit: fixed to say HDD not SSD

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Well I have no experience with these particular drives, but they do seem to have 11 platters. Which is beyond insane as far as I'm concerned. More platters means more moving parts, more friction more noise (all other things being equal).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Oops, yes. I definitely would expect these to be much louder than your 6 GB 1998 model HDD wrangling under stress of copying files at 30 MB/s.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tell that to my IBM 10GB 10.000 RPM U2W SCSI from back then. To this day I have never witnessed a noisier harddrive... But that PC was pretty epic, including the biggest mf of a mainboard I ever had (the SCSI controller was onboard).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, the sound of turning on the SCSI storage tower.

KA-TSCHONK. WeeeeeeeeEEEEEIIIIIII... skrrrt, skrrrt, clack.

Either that or KA-TSCHONK, silence, if there were already too many boxes on that circuit at a lan party 😁

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just don't put it in your bedroom. All those dead skin cells wouldn't do good to it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Since when is dust a concern for hard drives??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was talking about the server in general

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Drives like this are hermetically sealed with an inert gas like argon or helium on the inside. Even the presence of oxygen and nitrogen molecules can compromise the drive. If dust is getting to the moving parts of your hard drive, it's toast no matter where it's installed.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Parity rebuild will only take a week....

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My 6TB drive just died. So I'm in the market for a new one.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

sorry but these aren't 6TB

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mebbe the 26 one is just 3-4 smaller drives inside it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You joke but that's sorta how it works for some HDDs lol

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

this is great news! I'm running low on space on my 20tb now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago
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